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The original question:
I need advice on making soup or stock. I printed off instructions from the internet about making stock, it said to simmer chicken for 4-5 hours which I did for the rabbit and at that time there was hardly any water left. So I'm kinda feeling like a dummy here! Any thoughts?


The comments on that:
did you use LOTS of water? did you keep the pan covered?

Yeah, you have to keep the pot covered and once it comes to the boil you need to turn it way down low so that it just barely bubbles. A crock pot is perfect for making stock.

Hmmm, I don't think I kept it covered, I used the biggest pot I have, I have a few buns overdue for camp so I'll try it again this weekend. Is there a ratio for how much water to use for a certain amount of carcass?

Feel like a bit of a tool, I've got some recipes down pretty good, totally no clue about others....


Truckinguy, I use about 3 rib sections for a crockpot of stock. It's hard to give exact measurements, but if you don't use enough rabbit the broth will be weak. If there is a lot of meat on the bones, you may want to pull the pieces out partway through, remove the meat and then return the bones to the stock pot. That way the meat won't lose all its flavour and can be added back to the soup in the final stages.

If you inadvertently do make the stock too watery, that is when you remove the lid and let it simmer awhile to reduce it. I like to throw in an onion with a few cloves pushed into it, a carrot, a couple of bay leaves and some black pepper, but some people prefer to leave the seasoning until the stock is made up into soup. Adding a cup or two of apple juice as part of the liquid gives the broth a lovely flavour... not sweet, but rich and mellow. Just a few ideas for you to play with!

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Ann, don't forget to age the meat in the fridge for 2 - 3 days before cooking or freezing it. A simple recipe is likely best for the first time or two. Do you have a favourite chicken recipe that you would enjoy adapting?
 
Ok, sent four buns to camp yesterday so I"m atempting to make some stock this afternoon. What's the best way to keep it? Can it be frozen? I don't have a canner so I can't do that. How long will it keep in the fridge?

I removed the back and front legs, backstraps and belly flaps, liver, heart and kidneys. I"m going to use the remains of two rabbits per pot so I hope that's enough. I guess it's all relative, everyone's stock or soup will be different.
 
freeze it in two cup measures if you can. I find that the easiest amount to work with. :) ziploc bags will work, just freeze them in an upright position if you can.

now add....bay leaf, celery, carrots, onions and other stuff if you are so inclined. :)
 
Thank you. What I actually did was add the two rabbit carcasses (what was left after I removd the above mentioned parts), about two cups of frozen peas, corn and carrots, half a diced onion, some pepper and a bit of seasoning salt. I brought it to a boil then simmered it on the stove with the lid on for about an hour and a half. then I removed the rabbit sections, removed as much of the meat as I could and returned the meat to the pot.

It turned out not half bad! It made about seven margarine containers worth. I have to play with the ingredients a bit but it's a good start.
 
Good for you, Truckinguy!

As you thaw the containers for use, one by one, you can experiment with adding different seasonings each time. You'll soon get a feel for which ones you like best. Fresh or dried herbs add a nice touch to rabbit soup, as does a dash of Tabasco. Garlic is also good... Lots of choices!
 
Good suggestions, Maggie, I LOVE garlic and Tobasco sauce sounds interesting!

Thanks to everyone for putting up with my questions. It's just me here so I have to ask questions here or call my Mom (yes, 44 years old and still call Mom for advice)! :D
 
Try a couple of teaspoons of basil, or a couple teaspoons of thyme along with your onions and garlic. Also, try about 1/4 cup of Worcestershire sauce sauce (Lea & Perrins is, by far, the best). If you grow leeks, try a whole chopped leek instead of the onion, of course salt and pepper are always a mainstay.

Simmer till the meat is tender..... quite a long tome for older rabbits, usually an hour or less for fryers. (I makes soup or stew out of all my rib cages and hip/tail bone sections when I process my fryers.... If it is an old rabbit, i stew the whole thing) I stay away from the crock-pot for this.... it tends to cause onions and some meats to have a peculiar taste.
 
Ok, I have another pot of soup on the stove now. I added two cups of mixed veggies, a cup of tomato sauce, half a diced onion, lots of pepper, can of mushrooms... does it ever smell good!

That's it, I"m outta control... I hope you're all happy now! :D

Unfortunately I lapsed on the breeding over the summer so I won't have any more to butcher for a while.
 
Any broth or stock can be strained, degreased, and cooked down to a gelatin and put into a small jar. This is what is referred to as a meat glaze. It stores so much better that way, and it keeps for years in the refrigerator (if you degreased it properly). When you want to use it in a recipe, a 1/4-tsp sized piece added to water will make 6 cups of broth.
 
trinityoaks":gbgvnj7z said:
Any broth or stock can be strained, degreased, and cooked down to a gelatin and put into a small jar. This is what is referred to as a meat glaze.

I've done that accidentally! Or almost, anyway... sometimes my leftover soup will become a gelatin when refrigerated.

How do you degrease "properly"? Skim repeatedly? Put it through a coffee filter? Cool and scrape all the fat off?
 
MamaSheepdog":384fs5m3 said:
How do you degrease "properly"?
I skim as much off as I can, then I float paper towels on top. If there's any left after it cools, I scrape it off.

I start with a 20-qt stock pot and cook it down to a little less than a half-pint. You have to watch it closely once you get it down to a quart or so. Sometimes I cook it down a little too much, and it's hard as a rock after it cools. Then I have to break pieces off with the flat side of a metal meat mallet.

One thing I want to try (when I can find a place to buy the trays) is to pour the glaze into mini ice trays while it's still warm. When they're cool, they should make perfect bouillon cubes without all of the salt, preservatives, and other junk in them.
 
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