LilyBane Kit colours

[ladysown]

My guesses/certainties listed on photo's.

parents are bonfire (m) and lilybane (f)




This kit is black


This is heavier marked broken, probably tort or smutty orange


This lighter marked broken, probably smutty orange


This kit is shaded... started life looking like would be a seal or a siamese but now looking more dark tort... wondering if chocolate tort a possibility?


in real life I'd swear this kit is a broken chocolate but the picture tells me something else. Possibly chocolate chestnut?? has a touch of ear lacing...so really hmm....



My end goal is two fold... to produce chocolate tricolours/japs and I love the look of chocolate otters. This is a step toward that I am hoping.

 

[Dood]

I see

Black
Broken fawn (orange should have orange rather than white bellies)
Broken fawn
Black tort
Broken chestnut

 

[ladysown]

so my orange buck is actually a fawn?

 

[Dood]

I cannot tell from this photo

Reds and orange need the wideband gene "ww" to mimic self rabbits

 

[SableSteel]

There has been some confusion between fawn and orange in Holland lops, given that they are the same color genetically and there is no definite difference between them (orange are just supposed to be a darker shade - more rufus - but not wideband, like red). In the most recent standard, the Holland lop club has chosen to remove fawn from the standard to fix this confusion (leaving all "fawns" under the name orange), so I'd call your buck orange, and both those kits broken orange. The other kits look black, black tort and broken chestnut. If the mother is chocolate, they are all chocolate carriers, but if you want otter you'll have to bring in an otter, because it looks like neither parent carries otter.

 

[ladysown]

I have an orange buck and a black otter buck and a variety of others.... unfortunately my tricolour doe passed away this winter so... I may have to settle for a while with just looking to do chocolate and chocolate otters...just trying to get it a bit more established... but that broken chestnut often looks chocolate when held! Funny little beastie.