GMO's effect on animal fertility

[DanaYares]

For those of you who haven't heard the term GMO, it stands for Genetically Modified Organism.

A genetically modified organism (GMO) or genetically engineered organism (GEO) is an organism whose genetic material has been altered using genetic engineering techniques. These techniques, generally known as recombinant DNA technology, use DNA molecules from different sources, which are combined into one molecule to create a new set of genes. This DNA is then transferred into an organism, giving it modified or novel genes. Transgenic organisms, a subset of GMOs, are organisms that have inserted DNA from a different species. GMOs are the constituents of genetically modified foods.

I seen lots of posts on this forum about people having trouble with their does not getting pregnant or having small or malformed kits. GMO's in animal feed have been linked to infertility in all animals who eat them, including humans. Please read the following article and educate yourself on these dangerous things in our food system.

http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/gmo-fe ... -research/

Currently there are initiatives being proposed to either mandate labeling (California) or completely ban (Oregon) the use of GMO's in the US. Canada is one of the worlds largest producers of GMO's.

Look at your feed labels, if it doesn't say ORGANIC, then it's probably GMO. This goes for your food as well.

 

[OneAcreFarm]

I am not really thrilled about GMO food but that website that I was taken to by the link that you posted is full of mis-information. ADD, ADHD and Autism are not "Vaccine-Related Injuries". There is a strong genetic link for all three of these disorders. It runs in families, and even those that have not been vaccinated. I am not gonna get on my soap box here about this, but that website is perpetuating lies, mis-information and speculation as accepted truth when it comes to vaccines.

 

[Frosted Rabbits]

genetically modified foords ARE also considered GMO-- and yes, GM grains and flowers have been linked to bee colony failure-- Another cause of colony failure-- artificial 'cells' that the bees use for raising eggs and larva- they are too small, and encourage dangerous microorganism as a result.
The biggest issue with vaccines is the fact that the children get so many at one time, and in such a short span of time-- this causes the immature immune system to be overwhelmed, rather than challenged.

 

[DanaYares]

I'm not sure about the vaccine issue. I was trying to draw your attention to the effects of GMO's on animal fertility. The article on the link I posted is very good and clearly written. I have been researching GMO's and most of the articles published are in language that is very hard to understand.

If anyone is having trouble with rabbit fertility, you should consider changing your feed to non-GMO.

 

[Miss M]

Another possibility that has been introduced on here is the radioactivity that has traveled here from Japan.

But I could see how GMOs could be an issue with fertility. I am not comfortable with GMOs.

 

[OneAcreFarm]

I'm not sure about the vaccine issue. I was trying to draw your attention to the effects of GMO's on animal fertility. The article on the link I posted is very good and clearly written. I have been researching GMO's and most of the articles published are in language that is very hard to understand.

If anyone is having trouble with rabbit fertility, you should consider changing your feed to non-GMO.

Sorry if I sounded snippy, I just have heard too many people repeating that anti-vaccine and "vaccines cause ADHD" stuff without reading any serious research on the effectiveness of vaccines and how many thousands of children would die each year without them.

As to the GMO stuff, I don't like the idea of GMO food of any kind. Unfortunately, we do have to buy alot of what we eat. I try to get organic but just because it is labeled that, does not mean that it is 100% organic. *sigh* One day I will grow all my own food....won't that be nice?

 

[sommrluv]

I find a lot of the natural websites have a TON of misinformation. Being somewhere between totally granola/crunchy and not hating everything about the gov't...what's a girl to do? LOL

(side note on vaccines...most reputable scientists believe there is a link in only that those who carry a gene for autism can 'activate' it by the reaction to the vaccine..high fever, etc. A flu can do essentially the same thing. But USDA has settled with some early autism victims because a heel prick test now available can identify the disorder before vaccines, and it wasn't offered, even though there was knowledge of the reaction) That's basically the extent of the link.

On another topic...I'm not a fan of GMO's. I feed the chickens gmo free food, but the bunnies as I'm still in my 'seeing how this goes' experiments, I do not. There is a mill two hours west of me that has organic non-gmo rabbit food, but it's pricey unless you buy it by the tone. DH and I were contemplating where we would store a ton. At full capacity, we're using between 1 1/2 50 lb bags a month to 2 bags. (plus manna and hay and treats) I know we have significant waste but I'm trying not to worry about it until I can implement a good 'system'. The rabbits pick through the spilled hay and droppings so it's not a total loss.

Sorry...side tracked....gmo bad. lol

 

[OneAcreFarm]

I find a lot of the natural websites have a TON of misinformation. Being somewhere between totally granola/crunchy and not hating everything about the gov't...what's a girl to do? LOL

(side note on vaccines...most reputable scientists believe there is a link in only that those who carry a gene for autism can 'activate' it by the reaction to the vaccine..high fever, etc. A flu can do essentially the same thing. But USDA has settled with some early autism victims because a heel prick test now available can identify the disorder before vaccines, and it wasn't offered, even though there was knowledge of the reaction) That's basically the extent of the link.

Interesting! I will have to look that up, thank you Summerluv. So many people think that "vaccines cause autism" which is not the truth of it...It is like a lot of other medications, penicillin for example. A very simple, lifesaving antibiotic for most people. If you give it to my husband or my sons....it would kill them because they are allergic. Aside from the vaccine link, autism also has a strong genetic link. My husband's family has several members that have some form of autism and NONE of them were vaccinated as children because they lived on a farm in Wisconsin and were born at home. (they are older...)

 

[sommrluv]

The girls name was Hannah Poling (polling?). I think that case got a little more steam because the girls father is a Dr. (neurologist, I think?) and her mother was a nurse. Educated individuals not some mountain yokel who doesn't understand medicine. (I am proudly 1/2 mountain yokel myself..no offense intended, LOL)

They were paid by the vaccine injury fund. It's in place because there are actually a significant number of vaccine related injuries, more from allergic reactions. I'm not really pro or anti vaccines...I'm more 'vaccine wary' if there is such a thing. I'm personally had reactions to the new vaccines and I just don't like the numbers. We don't have kids so I couldn't honestly say what decision I would make. I'm just the type of person that likes to have facts from all sides before I form an opinion.

 

[OneAcreFarm]

The girls name was Hannah Poling (polling?). I think that case got a little more steam because the girls father is a Dr. (neurologist, I think?) and her mother was a nurse. Educated individuals not some mountain yokel who doesn't understand medicine. (I am proudly 1/2 mountain yokel myself..no offense intended, LOL)

They were paid by the vaccine injury fund. It's in place because there are actually a significant number of vaccine related injuries, more from allergic reactions. I'm not really pro or anti vaccines...I'm more 'vaccine wary' if there is such a thing. I'm personally had reactions to the new vaccines and I just don't like the numbers. We don't have kids so I couldn't honestly say what decision I would make. I'm just the type of person that likes to have facts from all sides before I form an opinion.

I can understand that, I am wary myself of new vaccines that have not had adequate testing.

 

[hoodat]

GMOs are a difficult subject to research. Since there is so much money at stake the internet is full of "controlled" studies that were controlled to get the results they wanted. Both sides are equally guilty of this. There is also money at stake on the organic side.

 

[5dognightfarm]

We've noticed a significant fertility boost since we switched feeds...maybe it has less GM crops in it? It doesn't have corn, I'm sure that has something to do with it. Next year hopefully I can throw them out on pasture and feed them our own stuff we're raising in the garden. That's about the only way to guarantee anything.

 

[Frosted Rabbits]

sadly, even a GM vegetative crop can be 'organic'. Once the genetics are modified, you are going to have a tough time UN-modifying them! And yes, CORN and SOY free, for feed ingredients would be a very good way to reduce/eliminate the GM factor in feeds.

One has to remember, when it comes to labeling a product as Organic, free range, etc-- there is a HUGE spectrum of points that can be ignored!! for example, if a needed ingredient is only available from one source, and it is not 'organic' in origin, the end product may still be labeled organic if everything else included was 'certified organic"
Free range poultry need never see the light of day!!! The guidelines that the USDA and FDA permit for labeling are really, quite lax! technically, organic produce on the grocery shelves should be displayed separately from conventionally produced veggies-- But most groceries do not follow that rule!

 

[5dognightfarm]

The only way to be certain of safe, sustainably farmed food is to buy unprocessed, buy local and visit where your food came from. ANY label can be twisted and manipulated by the industrial food system to appeal to foodies like you and me while still being unethical behind the scenes. Only 70% of ingredients in an organic product need to actually be organic and free-range just means it isn't in a cage. Almost all broiler chickens in the country are free-range anyways, industrial or otherwise. Marketing is everything to the blind consumer. Look at "certified Angus beef" for Pete's sake! Cattle only need to have black hide for that to fly!

 

[MaggieJ]

Here in Canada, "Certified Organic" is a very specific and regulated designation. It's not perfect but the term is not one that can be bandied about at will by retailers or manufacturers.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fss ... inte.shtml

 

[5dognightfarm]

Here in Canada, "Certified Organic" is a very specific and regulated designation. It's not perfect but the term is not one that can be bandied about at will by retailers or manufacturers.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fss ... inte.shtml

I love Canada.

 

[MaggieJ]

LOL, Cait! Most Americans (and many Canadians too) think we are over-regulated, but sometimes it can be a good thing.

 

[DanaYares]

You're absolutely right Cattle Cait... Going local and knowing your farmer are the best defenses you have. We're hoping that here in the US the label GMO's campaign will win, so at least you will know if your are buy/consuming GMO's.

If consumers choose not to buy/eat GMO's then the problem will take care of itself. In the case of the Flavor Saver tomato and GM potato (that were labeled), consumers didn't buy them and they soon disappeared from the market!

 

[Frosted Rabbits]

T Look at "certified Angus beef" for Pete's sake! Cattle only need to have black hide for that to fly!

A local inspector here told us, If it is more than 40% black, it can be certified as Angus! Umm, Angus also come in RED! And I have seen plenty of HOLSTEINS that are 50% black! Now, I UNderstand there is an ANGUS group that will ;certify" a herd, based on quality of the finished products-- but dang, one has to keep pedigrees on everything, as well!