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Frosted Rabbits

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I am in a quandary--
My Son-in-Law was officially, after a fast and furious set of testing, X-rays, CT scans, MRIs and biopsies, diagnosed with Collective Duct Carcinoma-- a rare form of kidney cancer. It has metastasized, and the mass is larger than a football at this point. His liver and stomach are involved. When my grandfather was dying of cancer, the "C word" was never mentioned. when an aunt was dying, at least we knew it was cancer. I have one aunt who is a breast cancer survivor in the sense she underwent surgery and is in remission, another aunt that despite the Cleveland Clinic not being able to name the cancer, still has it, but has 'outlived' their 'expert opinions' even after discontinuing treatment-- she felt the treatment was worse than the dis-ease. my daughter has a 3 year old daughter, and has been married less than 5 years. She recently took a voluntary demotion so she could spend more time being a 'mommy' when her dear husband decided maybe he should see his GI fella about the persistent GERD symptoms.
I feel for my daughter. I am worried. I cannot physically get there to help. I want to hold her, to cry with her, to help find healthy, nutrient dense foods for them all to eat (they are desiring to get as far away from processed and GMO foods as possible) My SIL cannot eat a lot- he is basically 'renting' whatever he eats. So it is many, small meals for him. he starts Chemo next week-- surgery must wait for chemo to effect some sort of stabilization, otherwise, it could be weeks before chemo to be started (no chemo until surgeries have healed)
My SIL is the man who makes my daughter's heart smile. He has even bought some faith into her life- Their daughter is, herself, a miracle child- the only pregnancy that my daughter carried beyond the first trimester. I was thinking, if anything-- does anyone know of a source of raw cow milk in the VA Beach area-- preferably from a cow beyond the third lactation? Raw milk is full of anti-cancer agents---of anti-cancer agents.... I Know what I will do with Marsha's current litter now---
 
Prayers for your family.

One huge and important factor in a healthy cancer fighting diet is the water. Call an alternative medicine specialist or natural food provider to find a good supplier of clean pure water. The proof is in the ice cubes. Clean pure water will make ice that is clear like glass, so you know it is not contaminated with any kind of nasties.
 
coffeenutdesigns":92h05ly7 said:
One huge and important factor in a healthy cancer fighting diet is the water. Call an alternative medicine specialist or natural food provider to find a good supplier of clean pure water.
It might be less expensive to get a Berkey water filter. That will purify even the worst water.
 
(hugs)

I will likely get flamed for this, but I have seen the benefits of medical marijuana in this situation. It helps with the nausea, lack of appetite, and the pain. Virginia, of course, is behind the curve on this issue, but it is something well worth looking into.

I had someone very close to me with end stage bone cancer. He was on a morphine drip, and it didn't touch his pain. The marijuana did.

As far as the water, out here there are lots of places where you can get water directly out of the mountains. We load up some gallon jugs and fill them up. I uses to live in Virginia Beach, but as a young child, so I don't remember if there are any out there.

Your family will be in my prayers.
 
Marinea":ugcylwov said:
(hugs)

I will likely get flamed for this, but I have seen the benefits of medical marijuana in this situation. It helps with the nausea, lack of appetite, and the pain. Virginia, of course, is behind the curve on this issue, but it is something well worth looking into.

I had someone very close to me with end stage bone cancer. He was on a morphine drip, and it didn't touch his pain. The marijuana did.

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One need not smoke the MJ (which can be very upsetting to non-smokers). Eating it, maybe in a small serving of tomato sauce (think of MJ as "oregano" and season accordingly), or even smashing it into fudge, is equally useful. This information brought to you by a resident of a state where medicinal MJ has been legal under state law since the '90s.
 
Marinea":3so3g8nr said:
(hugs)

I will likely get flamed for this, but I have seen the benefits of medical marijuana in this situation. It helps with the nausea, lack of appetite, and the pain. Virginia, of course, is behind the curve on this issue, but it is something well worth looking into.

I had someone very close to me with end stage bone cancer. He was on a morphine drip, and it didn't touch his pain. The marijuana did.

As far as the water, out here there are lots of places where you can get water directly out of the mountains. We load up some gallon jugs and fill them up. I uses to live in Virginia Beach, but as a young child, so I don't remember if there are any out there.

Your family will be in my prayers.

In some cases MJ is found to be very helpful, so you won't be flamed by me!

Now it is wether or not they can get the prescription if they made that choice.

I'm glad the you SIL is trying to go about it by also making changes to his diet. My best friends aunt had cancer and watching her unable to hold her only son was so difficult to watch since I spent many summers there. She was just so susceptible to sickness from chemo and he was just a toddler in pre-school and kids pick up just about everything there. She used to have long red hair and would always just play with my long black one every now and then and always comment how beautiful it was....so grew out my hair even longer and cut it to donate :)

My heart aches for your family, having seen what it can do. Sending many prayers to all of you guys.
 
I'm so sorry to hear about your SIL. Looking into alternative treatments, especially diet, is a great step.

My little dog Frosty was diagnosed with cancer and was given 6 months at the most with chemo treatments costing over $600 per dose monthly at my vet's cost- and this was a good twenty years ago. I took her to a holistic vet, and he put her on an organic homemade diet, shark cartilage capsules, and I can't recall what else. But she lived for two more years before wandering off up here when we were camping. She couldn't hear well any more, and I think she got lost, or left to die... so she may have made it even longer.

At any rate, diet plays a huge role, and can only help.

If I know you , Terry, you are wearing your fingers to the bone researching alternative treatments for him. I hope you are able to help him. :clover:

I don't know if he is too debilitated to tolerate it, but I have heard that herbal colon cleansing is very important, as is a parasite cleanse.
 
I'm so sorry, Terry. ((hugs)) to you and your family.

In the spirit of tossing around ideas, extreme ketogenic diets have been found to be potentially beneficial in some instances. Many cancers cannot uptake ketones in the absence of glucose. The diet is extremely strict (nearly worse than the ketogenic diet for childhood epilepsy), and many doctors are opposed to it, but preliminary research is there.
 
I'm very sorry as well :( I will have to do some digging, but I remember seeing a documentary awhile back that had some alternative treatments for cancer. If I remember right, they gave the patients REALLY high doses of vitamin C and it had something like a 40% recovery rate which is higher than chemo. That is based on my memory and it's been awhile since I've seen it, so let me see if I can find it. Definitely get a water filter or something similar as well. There is so much crap in tap water that it certainly won't help things. Getting off GMOs is as easy as going organic. There are some non-organic foods that don't contain GMOs but it is impossible to know which without doing research online. It's exactly why the lack of labeling here in the US gets me so annoyed >_<!<br /><br />__________ Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:02 am __________<br /><br />I found it - was called Food Matters - here's the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4DOQ6Xhqss

If you have Netflix - you can watch it there for free : http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Food-Matters/70123196
 
Oh yes-- looking for the highest food values for anti-cancer agents, highest nutritional levels, best absorption, etc. SIL is making smoothies, so I am sending him recipes from a natural healing book I have- and a few months ago, I even purchased a "Nutri-bullet" for myself-- so he gets those recipes, as well. Some 'friend' of his called him 'stupid' for going in to work-- but I look at it this way- people need to do what makes them feel best, emotionally-- and if working a reduced schedule does it for him, then that is okay with me. Both Daughter and SIL want the child to have as normal a life right now as possible, and that means Mommy works days, Daddy works nights, and sometimes aunt and uncle babysit. She understand Daddy does not feel well, but of course, at three years old, she cannot understand the seriousness of why Daddy feels badly. she does know the smoothies help him feel better--- Chemo starts next week- hoping to shrink the tumors enough that surgery can be considered. It looks like there is a cryosurgery option for many cancers that can be used to decimate a lot of the mass without harming surrounding tissues. And since other organs are involved, the laparoscopic methods would be beneficial-- as the sooner each cut heals, the sooner Chemo can be resumed... Who knows- as wonderful as my SIL is, perhaps he will become a 'first' for the type of cancer....
 
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