Ear injury?? o.0

[Susie570]

As you folks may remember, our litter is half Mini Lop & half Harlequin Dutch. So, just before I left the shop today, I was making sure the little critters all had plenty to eat.... and I saw this.




Peanut Butter has one ear lopping. Could she have hurt her ear somehow? Wouldn't it be odd for an ear to start lopping at 6 wks? I checked her over and she seemed to be ok, except for the lopping ear. It seems that she can lift it up if she wants to, but suddenly she's just decided that it's... too heavy?? lol

Should I keep an eye on her?

 

[DBA]

I would watch, I bet the other will lop within a couple of days.

 

[Susie570]

I would watch, I bet the other will lop within a couple of days.

That would be awesome... I was really hoping for a few lop ears from this litter, but decided it wasn't going to happen. Unless there's just something wrong with her ear, of course.

 

[DBA]

Or, maybe she just wants to listen to the ground and the sky, kinda like surround sound

 

[Dood]

Normal for lops

If you want to breed for lop ears this is what you look for in a litter and just keep breeding the best to the best.

 

[Susie570]

Normal for lops

If you want to breed for lop ears this is what you look for in a litter and just keep breeding the best to the best.

So cool! I wonder if she will be the only one to lop? Seems like it's really late for it to happen. I hope she's not stuck with one up, one down! Lol It's cute though.

 

[Sagebrush]

Even if she justs has the one lopped, you could breed her back to her father to get the full lop in the next generation I would think.

 

[Dood]

Even some show quality Hollands don't have dropped ears until they are several months old

Even two lops can have kits with upright ears - one of my Lion head x Mini Lops with down ears only produced lop eared kits 20% of the time and the other 80% of the kits were either fully upright :x or partial like this kit and I still get the occasional "helicopter" ear from my current does who all have well loped ears as I still need to work on the crowns

 

[Susie570]

Even if she justs has the one lopped, you could breed her back to her father to get the full lop in the next generation I would think.

Maybe so... I know that Dood (I think it was Dood), was talking about how tricky the lop genetics are. Also, I wonder about what colors I would get from her. I think I was told that she's a tri, even though I can't see the black. I'm also curious now, as to whether the other kits will lop or whether it would be better to just try and find a good mini lop doe. Sounds like another thread to me. :lol:

-- Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:03 am --

Even some show quality Hollands don't have dropped ears until they are several months old

Even two lops can have kits with upright ears - one of my Lion head x Mini Lops with down ears only produced lop eared kits 20% of the time and the other 80% of the kits were either fully upright :x or partial like this kit and I still get the occasional "helicopter" ear from my current does who all have well loped ears as I still need to work on the crowns

Damn, that's crazy, Dood! Lop genes are weird. But, here I was thinking I wouldn't have any lop ears in the bunch. One of my favorite kits has already been reserved. What kind of colors do you think PB would throw with my buck? Of course, I may get more lops now too and one has body type to consider.

This is the only ML doe I've found close to me. They say she's 6 months old, not proven.

They're calling her a chin, not sure she looks it to me. I'm going to ask about her background

 

[Dood]

I don't see any big issues and her crown looks pretty good in the picture supplied (a bit back on the head for show) but she looks a bit chubby and might have issues getting pregnant :shrug:

It has taken me 4 generations to work out the upright lion head ears in my Lion Lops and it is still a work in progress , thankfully I can turn any kits that don't sell into meat and if you arent willing to do that I would stick with buying a Mini Lop doe for your buck

I would call her colour steel sable agouti (A_ B_ cchl_ D_ Es_) but the picture is not the greatest and she might be a smutty sable agouti (A_ B_cchl_ D_ E_) and not steel

 

[Susie570]

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure she would give me the colorful kits I would be looking for

So, what I REALLY need to do, is keep the loppy kit to breed back, get another litter from River momma and get a nice ML doe to see what she would produce... :shock: :shock:

I think I'm in trouble. :lol:

 

[Dood]

Since your buck is almost the same colour (broken blue sable agouti) you will probably not get a variety colours.

 

[Susie570]

Since your buck is almost the same colour (broken blue sable agouti) you will probably not get a variety colours.

That's what I was thinking, Dood. Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

I really like the light frosty colors and I like the bright tri-colors. I like spots.
What would be the best coat to look for to mix with my buck? He's already shown he can throw color with River, but she has a lot of color. <br /><br /> -- Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:06 pm -- <br /><br /> This was the reply regarding the doe's color lineage. Doesn't sound like she would give me what I need. Of course, I have no idea what my buck's background is either, so....

her father is a chinchilla. He has Broken Chinchilla, sable chinchilla, REW, Steel, Broken Chestnut Agouti, Chestnut agouti, and a broken black steel gold tipped on his side. Her mom is a Sable chinchilla with REW, Steel, Black gold tipped, Chestnut agouti, Blue steel tipped, Broken Chestnut, black steel tipped, broken steel broken sable steel.

 

[Dood]

A tort with a Himi or REW parent might be interesting but you won't get any tri's, just broken and solid chestnut, fawns, sable agouti, frosty, blacks, torts, sable, sable points and possibly Himi or REW

 

[Susie570]

A tort with a Himi or REW parent might be interesting but you won't get any tri's, just broken and solid chestnut, fawns, sable agouti, frosty, blacks, torts, sable, sable points and possibly Himi or REW

I would love to get frosties... sounds like there could be some pretty babies after all? Or is it just likely that I'll get a bunch of muddy steel kits? Lol

 

[Dood]

Torts cannot carry steel as they are homozygous for non extension on their E-locus and I don't think your buck is a steel :shrug:

A frosty is a chinchilla'd fawn ( and magpies are chinchilla'd harlequins) and your buck must carry non extension as he's fathered harlis, you just need a non extension doe who is also recessive on the C-locus or carries chin, shaded, himi or REW to get some frosties

 

[Susie570]

Ok, I'm still not sure what tort means... :?: :?:

Does this mean it is likely the doe would give me frosties then? Would it just be random, like I might get a bunch of different types in litters from her, and maybe the occasional frosty? And then, if I got a frosty doe from him and bred it back to him, would that give me more frosties, our something completely different?

 

[Dood]

You would get several different colours as the combination of colour genes they carry could create many colours.

Breeding a frosty doe to your buck would certainly give you some frosties but depending on the colour genes they secretly carry you may only get 1 each litter :shrug:

Breeding your buck to a frosty daughter would produce 50% blue based kits and you'd likely get blue sable agouti, blue frosty and blue sable points