Dave Ramsey- Does his method work?

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margali

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We are not swimming in debt but money is supertight. We can pay all are normal bills but doctor's bills pile up and we have no savings. I am trying to figure out how to fix our budget so we can 1) pay the doctor bills 2) start saving money for emergencies and move to Texas.

I've been checking everything I can find out of the library. Dave's book Total Money Makeover seems to make sense but I wondered if anyone on RT has used his method? Any tips on how to get DH on board with improving budget?
 
I would follow his budget advice but not his investment recommendations.

Getting rid of credit and debit cards, living on cash and strict record keeping on what you've spent really helps you to appreciate your money and as you watch your cash jars dwindle at the end of the week you reconsider if you want to stop for a $5 Starbucks or wait for some homebrew and put that money towards your savings or future plans.
 
I highly recommend him. I actually just bought his system (years ago now) online and went through it by myself, without going through the actual classes. You get all the videos and can download them for future review, which is great. I was too impatient to go through one video a week, and just crammed through it in a week or two - which is not necessarily for everyone!

Anyway, one of the shining stars of his system is the zero based budget (give every penny a job before you have it), the envelope system (can be done with cash or checking accounts or a combination) and right sizing your expenses to your income and vice versa. I never followed his investment advice, so I can't speak to that. We did find great value in his system, though and he has really high energy and is a great motivator, as well as just a lot of plain old common sense that he is good at explaining.

I actually started teaching my kids money management when DD was 11 and DS was 8. I opened actual checking accounts with debit cards for them, set up an "envelope" check register for them and gave them a monthly "paycheck" that was unrelated to chores or behaviors of any kind. They were then responsible for their clothes, lunch money, hair cuts, birthday gifts for friends, giving 10% to a charity, entertainment, etc. We still paid for camps, clubs, sports, etc - I just wanted them to learn to deal with the regular ongoing expenses.

They quickly learned that if they bought that $70 shirt they REALLY wanted, then they would run out of money fast! They both really have a good grasp on money now, DD did right from when she moved out after high school. Another thing that I didn't expect is that they both will call me if they can't decide something or aren't sure if they are doing it right. When DS first moved out on his own he called me in a panic from a grocery store, wanting to know what foods to buy to feed his high metabolism on just the $200 a month in his budget for food! That's Dave Ramsey in action in a young person right there.

Another really great tool is the software YNAB - which stands for You Need A Budget. It is a zero based budget finance software that is inexpensive and they have a lot of videos and tutorials, as well as a pretty great user forum. It actually shows you what every penny in your bank accounts or cash is supposed to be used for! So, if you have a "sinking fund" for car repairs that you put $50 a month into, you can actually see at any point in time how much money you have available. Then, if you have say a $380 auto expense and you only have $300 in your sinking fund, you have to look at all your other budget lines and see where you can "steal" some money. It also is a good way to let you know if you are budgeting enough for that expense, which is a good reality check.

I love the combination of Dave Ramsey and YNAB - and it's a great feeling when the winter utility bills come in (sometimes triple what they are in the Summer) and the money is just sitting in there waiting for that high bill! That's what sinking funds are all about, you put the same amount of money into each one every pay day, and let the expenses come when they will.

Sorry, budget nerd here! Good luck!
 
I just wanted to add
I have and use ynab its good if you stick to the formula they also have an app for smart phones that makes it pretty useful if you have a smart phone and I don't but do enjoy budgeting even if I cant make enough money to move out ever
 
His program is good, but not really revolutionary. If you like him, his books are great and pretty good reads. If he rubs you the wrong way (I've heard his radio show can be pretty annoying), then there are many other financial programs you can follow. I WOULD NOT follow his advice about investing, and would at least investigate the pros of having credit cards. They can be a tool to build credit. Dave Ramsey can say that credit cards are not necessary, but when you really need credit, it's good to know that you can get it. My boyfriend and I would be forty before we would be able to move out of a one bedroom apartment if we hadn't gotten a home loan.
 
I do agree, credit cards are useful tools if used properly. When I was a loan officer I used to tell people, if you feel like you've won the lottery when you get a new credit card, they might not be right for you! I have one card that I get 2% back on many purchases, we use that almost exclusively. Actually my husband and I both have one with them, so we get quite a bit of money back from them. We pay the balance in full every month, so no interest charges! <br /><br /> __________ Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:13 pm __________ <br /><br /> Also, if you use YNAB and follow their teachings, you almost don't need any other systems. They also walk you through paying off all your debts. If I could only afford one system, that would be it.
 
Does the YNAB software work a lot better than the budgeting features in Quicken? I have access to free copy of Quicken Home 2010.

Dave's program caught my attention because our library has his complete set of his CD program and books.
 
I have read the book and attended one of his live programs. As others have said, his advice is solid for reducing debt. He would not be my first choice for an investment counselor though.

Does it work? Hubby and I are debt free, including a paid off home and automobiles. We own no credit cards. It has taken years to get to this point, and it has taken both of us being on the same page. Any financial changes can be quickly and badly tanked if the people involved are not both committed and communicating.

Best of luck.
 
Haven't read the book - but would agree with anyone who is against using credit and credit cards. From observing friends and familiy-- credit cards and mortgages and buying cars with credit is why they have no money- all their money goes toward paying interest on their debt. My motto is if you don't have the money, save until you have the money. Also, with houses, play the waiting game don't buy on emotion- only buy houses after real estate prices have a crash (or a correction)- think of real estate as being the same as the stock market- buy low sell high.
 
I haven't heard of Dave Ramsey, but my family picked up The Five Lessons a Millionaire Taught Me For Women by Richard Paul Evans. Even with shipping, the book is under $5 Used on Amazon for example and the reviews sum up why it's a book to look into. Despite the title, it was based on his book for men, after he received questions on specific things women wanted help with. I suppose that, as others have said, it isn't that the content is groundbreaking, but the way he laid out his caveats & the pages of resources (like budget lists etc) and goals IS helpful, and his information was exactly what we needed. We were accessing many different sources for information, but with that book we were saying, "We can actually DO this".

Everyone's Needs are different, but when you start cutting corners AND have some success, things really do get easier. For example, I dropped TV entirely - as in, I do not own a TV anymore. I can still watch DVDs and some free online shows by PC of course, and I do, but that as an example cut out hundreds between dish costs & electricity. I have done some pretty radical things to keep in budget, but the results made it worth it. I have sent his book to loved ones and they have taken great steps in their debt cutting too.

No matter what help-book/program you go with, I hope it helps you the way you need it too. It really takes the weight off your shoulders. There will come a time when things just start going "right" and the choices and the sacrifices you made roll you into an easier path. It's more than a good feeling. It's liberating to shed stress. GOOD LUCK!!
 

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