Cull or treat?

[dayna]

14 days old. I think the foot might have gotten stuck under the ceramic tile? I'm not really sure. Missing a toe for sure, and degloved on part of the lower leg.

So far I am coming here asking advice first. I picked it up and it opened its mouth and started screaming with is mouth shaped like O until I set it down. Obviously it hurts.

So obvious #1: It's painful, #2 I have to do something, #3 serious flys around here.

Suggestions? I hate to cull it but I also hate to have it suffer. 14 days still needs momma milk right? Otherwise I could bring it inside maybe? Every time it's siblings come near it, it cries and tries to get away (they must be jumping on the owie).

 

[MamaSheepdog]

The toe is no big deal- it will heal even being degloved. I can't see the leg wound well enough to see how bad it is. It looks really fresh- can you super glue it? And barring that just spray liberally with Blu-Kote or Vetericyn?

You can still isolate the little guy and just bring out twice daily to feed.

If you have any arnica tablets in your homeopathy kit, I have safely given those to cats, dogs, and rabbits. Not to mention us. :roll: I'm sure it is already eating greens, given your feeding protocol (not to mention it is standing on some, lol!), so if you have access to willow offer it that as well. I *think* the bark has the most concentration of salicylic acid, so some tender twigs and young branches would probably be best.

If it was mine, I would treat it. Young animals heal remarkably well.

 

[Northwinds Rabbitry]

The toe is no big deal- it will heal even being degloved. I can't see the leg wound well enough to see how bad it is. It looks really fresh- can you super glue it? And barring that just spray liberally with Blu-Kote or Vetericyn?

You can still isolate the little guy and just bring out twice daily to feed.

If you have any arnica tablets in your homeopathy kit, I have safely given those to cats, dogs, and rabbits. Not to mention us. :roll: I'm sure it is already eating greens, given your feeding protocol (not to mention it is standing on some, lol!), so if you have access to willow offer it that as well. I *think* the bark has the most concentration of salicylic acid, so some tender twigs and young branches would probably be best.

If it was mine, I would treat it. Young animals heal remarkably well.

:yeahthat: I would definitely give it a try myself

 

[ladysown]

bring him in the house or wrap the leg. he'll be better before you blink an eye.

 

[dayna]

Well I brought it in. Then went outside and saw MAMMA NACHO BITING RABBIT BABY TOES.

Suffice it to say, I have another injured kit. Brought it inside as well. Used Blue Kote on them both.

I blocked off the area so she can't get in there and bite baby toes. OMG.

 

[ladysown]

stupid doe! ARGH.. I'd be stew potting her when the babies are three weeks old.....

 

[Secuono]

Every injury is painful.
Momma needs to be culled, not the kits, if she's the one randomly attacking kits! Missing something in diet??
If it stays clean, it should not need anything at all. Now the flies are mainly gone, so just watch it for pus. No tendons severed?

 

[dayna]

Mamma Nacho is a goat. lol Sorry, if it was the Mamma Rabbit (Checkers) I'd cull her right away.<br /><br />__________ Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:36 pm __________<br /><br />Oh and in Hawaii the flies are never gone. They are insane right now. So I brought them inside for the night. They seemed in less pain after the blue kote.

 

[MamaSheepdog]

Oooh! Bad goat! BAD!!!

Someone needs to explain to her that goats are browsers of vegetation NOT bunnies!

 

[Miss M]

A goat nibbling bunny toes! :shock:<br /><br />__________ Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:06 am __________<br /><br />

Oooh! Bad goat! BAD!!!

Someone needs to explain to her that goats are browsers of vegetation NOT bunnies!

I KNOW!

I keep hearing that rhino from "Ice Age": "Aw, carnivores have all the fun!" :roll:

 

[Sinnfox]

Glad you settled on treat...strange tastes your goat has though ...but yeah they should heal in no time...i know i had a two day old kit almost scalped not long ago the I super glued the edges bad and he healed so well I cant even see the scar O.O >.. friends said cull but I wanted to give it a chance >.>

 

[Dood]

Herbivores eating meat has been well documented

http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/news/press/ontape.htm

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... sdeer.html

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOQdBLHrLk

 

[skysthelimit]

Scary. Glad they are taken care of. They will heal pretty quickly.

 

[dayna]

They were eager to get back to their momma and eat this morning. I will keep an eye on them. The screamer really felt a lot better today.

 

[DogCatMom]

Poor little bunnies! A Big Bad Monster Animal came and attacked their little footies! Owwwww! I'd scream, too, if something (hmm; gotta do the math...14 day-old baby, maybe 2 lb??? Mama Goat maybe 45 lb?)...

...if something more than TWENTY TIMES my size came and bit off a toe and tried for the whole foot! and got my skin! Yeah, calls for screaming in my book. Poor little things.

So...what is/was Mama Nacho Goat looking for in her diet? Or is this just another example of "Goats will eat--or try to eat--everything"? She's nursing twins....

All those protective instincts that used to be marshalled on behalf of my students are now pulled into play by these little bitty baby bunnies. Don't let me know their fate, Dayna, unless they're going to be someone's PET. Thank you so much. :wink: Maybe they can be "working bunnies" at my house if their fate is scheduled to be...ah...unfortunate.

I LIKE "working bunnies"; DH has given up whining about the gone-to-seed arugula now that Parsley Graybuns is working on it; I'm happy that my chicory is being fed to someone who LOVES it; and (shhh...) my neighbor's dandelions are almost history. :twisted: We're almost ready to apply Rabbit Raisins to the raised beds to "encourage" our fall-planted veggies; Parsley is generous, and loves his litter box with shredded newspaper and a "topping" of hay!

I'm almost ready to harvest the beets (yes, yes: a "bit" late, so they may have gone woody). Can rabbits be fed woody beets without digestive upset? Or should I simply compost any woody beets?

 

[dayna]

I don't know what she's looking for in her diet. She, frankly, has everything! She gets browse all day, as much orchard grass and alfalfa hay as she wants, loose minerals, fresh water and grain 3 times a day when I milk her.

And goats, contrary to popular belief will not eat or try to eat everything. They are actually pretty picky animals, with easily upset digestive systems (a lot like rabbits).

I actually do offer up many of my rabbits to be sold as pets. It helps me allow myself to keep attaching myself to them. Granted, some have a dinner table fate, but some do go on as pets or I hold back to see what they might do as breeders.

Each rabbit on my farm is LOVED very very much. Petted, given individual attention, treats, regardless of their fate.

I couldn't raise animals for food/pets/breeders any other way. I just couldn't.

 

[Zass]

I actually do offer up many of my rabbits to be sold as pets. It helps me allow myself to keep attaching myself to them. Granted, some have a dinner table fate, but some do go on as pets or I hold back to see what they might do as breeders.

Each rabbit on my farm is LOVED very very much. Petted, given individual attention, treats, regardless of their fate.

I couldn't raise animals for food/pets/breeders any other way. I just couldn't.

:yeahthat:

That's pretty awesome. I treat my rabbits the same way.

 

[PSFAngoras]

All my rabbits are that way too, whether they are destined for another breeder, or whether they are destined for my freezer, well socialized and spoiled rotten.

They couldn't live on my property otherwise.