coccidiosis

[preciousgurl63]

I just had to cull my NZ buck I've been posting about because he had coccidiosis. Now I'm really worried about the other rabbits in the bunny barn and my chickens I have next to the bunny barn. What should I do or what can I do? I know to clean the area and cage he was in with bleach but what else should I do? I don't want any of the other animals getting this. So PLEASE HELP.

 

[dayna]

I treat with Sulmet

 

[preciousgurl63]

Where can you get that and how much does it cost?

 

[michaels4gardens]

I just had to cull my NZ buck I've been posting about because he had coccidiosis. Now I'm really worried about the other rabbits in the bunny barn and my chickens I have next to the bunny barn. What should I do or what can I do? I know to clean the area and cage he was in with bleach but what else should I do? I don't want any of the other animals getting this. So PLEASE HELP.

Onion and garlic family plants will kill coccidiosis, [works great in rabbits and chickens] -[-Corid will cripple it some ,so the rabbit can develop an immunity.] I feed my rabbits , and chickens garlic tops, garlic chives, or onion tops, to control it.

 

[Dood]

How did you diagnose that he had coccidia?

 

[preciousgurl63]

I ended up culling him and then decided to check out his organs and go figure his liver had white spots on it. I had a ad up about him titled large tummy and people was saying that he probably had it or pinworms. So I asked how can you tell and someone posted a ad of how the liver would look and his looked just like the pic. I would of took some pics of his liver but wasn't thinking because I'm just so worried about my other rabbits getting it and also my chickens. I went a little crazy with some bleach today cleaning.

 

[Dood]

There are 2 types of coccidia, intestinal and hepatic (liver)

Did your rabbit have diarrhea or normal fecal pellets?

If normal, then you might be dealing with hepatic coccidia which is nearly impossible to completely cure and the liver damage is often permanent.

It is recommended you use a 10% ammonia solution to disinfect cages with coccidia contamination. Don't forget to soak bowls, water bottles, any toys etc... in the solution as well

Nearly all animals have low levels of intestinal coccidia and it only over runs young, old and immuno supressed animals. Colony rabbits are notorious for getting severe coccidia infections because they trample their wastes then groom themselves so they get heavier doses than rabbits kept on wire.

Keep an eye on your young rabbits for pot bellies, a lack of muscle, dull coats and excessive thirst

Rabbit coccidia shouldn't harm your chickens but keep your poultry and their poop away from your rabbits and their supplies.

 

[preciousgurl63]

Well when I had him in the house he had a really bad case of diarrhea for awhile so I just kept him on a hay diet until his poop started to harden up and look normal again. Once it looked normal I put him back on rabbit pellets but after a while I noticed he had a bloated stomach but didn't know why. I kept asking everyone one I could think of but nobody really knew since it could be many different reasons. I wound check on him all the time once I put him in the bunny barn hoping his stomach would go down but with no success. So I just decided to cull him. Glad I did because I don't want my main rabbits getting sick with it.

I don't have ammonia which is why I did bleach. So should I go get ammonia and reclean everything. Also my young NZ doe I have seems to be drinking a lot but has no bloat or anything. Should I be worried about her also since she was housed right next to my buck when I had them in the house.

My chickens stay away from my rabbits. They stay in their coop/run 24/7 since we have lots of things that would eat them around me.

 

[Zass]

Well when I had him in the house he had a really bad case of diarrhea for awhile so I just kept him on a hay diet until his poop started to harden up and look normal again. Once it looked normal I put him back on rabbit pellets but after a while I noticed he had a bloated stomach but didn't know why. I kept asking everyone one I could think of but nobody really knew since it could be many different reasons. I wound check on him all the time once I put him in the bunny barn hoping his stomach would go down but with no success. So I just decided to cull him. Glad I did because I don't want my main rabbits getting sick with it.

I don't have ammonia which is why I did bleach. So should I go get ammonia and reclean everything. Also my young NZ doe I have seems to be drinking a lot but has no bloat or anything. Should I be worried about her also since she was housed right next to my buck when I had them in the house.

My chickens stay away from my rabbits. They stay in their coop/run 24/7 since we have lots of things that would eat them around me.

Coccidosis is picked up mainly from contact with feces, I believe. Your other rabbits should be fairly safe so long as they weren't caged together or kept on a solid surface after him.

 

[preciousgurl63]

Ok. Well none of my rabbits are housed together. They each have their own cages. So all I should do is clean everything up that he was in or was around. I will see if I can get some ammonia tomorrow and clean with that instead of bleach.

 

[michaels4gardens]

J Egy
Efficacy of garlic extract on hepatic coccidiosis in infected rabbits (Oryctolagus cuniculus): histological and biochemical studies
Toulah FH1, Al-Rawi MM.
Author information
Abstract
The rabbits were divided into three groups, of 12 rabbits each. G1 was the (non-infected non-treated) as control, G2 was the (infected-non treated), and G3 was the (infected and treated) rabbits. Each rabbit in the infected groups were given (10(3)) sporuleted oocysts of Eimeria stiedae per rabbit after forty five days exactly. Faecal sample of rabbits from each group were examined each day post infection till oocysts appeared in faeces. The treatment was given by using suitable dosage of garlic according to body weight. After 15, 21, 28, & 35 days post-treatment faecal oocysts were output. Biochemical parameters as serum liver function (ALT, AST, GGT & ALP) that denoted the he-patic cells injury. The results showed a significant differences in the mean values of oocysts shedding and their mean number in bile ducts between Gs 2 &3 from the 15th day post infection (PI) (mean +/-SD:40.33 +/- 16.72 & 25.17 +/- .56 respectively) till the experimental end on the 35th day (55.75 +/- 19.79 & 0.94 +/- 1.43 respectively). The histopathological alterations were in liver of G2 at the experimental end. Coccidiosis in G2 induced histopathological alterations in liver tissue, marked cytoplasmic vacuolations in hepatocytes with clear signs of karyolysis, and dilatation of sinusoids with increase in Kupffer cells. Leukocytic infiltration around congested blood vessels was noticed. Efficacy of garlic on E. stiedae in infected Gs was resident. The liver of G3 regained almost normal appearance compared to control

so-- basicly, [ in common english} Garlic kills Coccidiosis, -- and is an effective treatment for infected rabbits.

 

[grumpy]

Onion and garlic family plants will kill coccidiosis, [works great in rabbits and chickens] -[-Corid will cripple it some ,so the rabbit can develop an immunity.] I feed my rabbits , and chickens garlic tops, garlic chives, or onion tops, to control it.

Michael,

Where's your reference source? If you could post it, I'd like to study the data.
Sulmet is another good remedy but the withdrawal on it is longer, I think.

Grumpy

 

[michaels4gardens]

Onion and garlic family plants will kill coccidiosis, [works great in rabbits and chickens] -[-Corid will cripple it some ,so the rabbit can develop an immunity.] I feed my rabbits , and chickens garlic tops, garlic chives, or onion tops, to control it.

Michael,

Where's your reference source? If you could post it, I'd like to study the data.
Sulmet is another good remedy but the withdrawal on it is longer, I think.

Grumpy

Grumpy reference about Corid, or the garlic-- Corid is a coccidiostat, , not a coccidiocide [a coccidiocide will kill the coccidiosis protozoa] -Corid , a coccidiostat, just inhibits it with the idea that the body will be able to develop an immunity / resistance to it in time. That is why older rabbits don't get sick as often as young rabbits exposed to cocci
http://www.corid.com/Pages/default.aspx

 

[grumpy]

I've seen the website for corid...... However, in researching the "Stat"
versus "Cide" I found it interesting that "Baycox" is a coccidiocide.

PLUS........it's quite expensive and requires a very long withdrawal period.
Far too long to be of any value in fryer production versus Corid which has
a 24 hour withdrawal advisement.

The biggest challenge is allowing the fryers' natural immune system time
enough to develop so that the animal's immunity can withstand the occysts
and suppress an increase in their production.
grumpy.

 

[michaels4gardens]

I've seen the website for corid...... However, in researching the "Stat"
versus "Cide" I found it interesting that "Baycox" is a coccidiocide.

PLUS........it's quite expensive and requires a very long withdrawal period.
Far too long to be of any value in fryer production versus Corid which has
a 24 hour withdrawal advisement.

The biggest challenge is allowing the fryers' natural immune system time
enough to develop so that the animal's immunity can withstand the occysts
and suppress an increase in their production.
grumpy.

I don't think fryers live long enough to develop the immunity , but a reduction in the occysts is still a good thing, as is the 24 hr withdrawal period.
I have been thinking about planting a bunch of Garlic Chives, and just tossing some in each cage 1 x / week, as I have never had a problem treating cocci with it. and "for me" I have never seen any "down side" to feeding it.

 

[grumpy]

I've seen the website for corid...... However, in researching the "Stat"
versus "Cide" I found it interesting that "Baycox" is a coccidiocide.

PLUS........it's quite expensive and requires a very long withdrawal period.
Far too long to be of any value in fryer production versus Corid which has
a 24 hour withdrawal advisement.

The biggest challenge is allowing the fryers' natural immune system time
enough to develop so that the animal's immunity can withstand the occysts
and suppress an increase in their production.
grumpy.

I don't think fryers live long enough to develop the immunity , but a reduction in the occysts is still a good thing, as is the 24 hr withdrawal period.
I have been thinking about planting a bunch of Garlic Chives, and just tossing some in each cage 1 x / week, as I have never had a problem treating cocci with it. and "for me" I have never seen any "down side" to feeding it.

An epiphany!!

A flat of these chives would easily be incorporated into the fodder room
with little to no room being sacrificed. Continual growth 365 days a year
sounds quite feasible and easily doable.

Hydroponically grown with a dash of "Rabbit-Tea" for sweetener every
few days.

Now to locate some seed...Ha-HAH!!

Grumpy

 

[Homer]

Grumpy, I have a bunch of garlic chive going to seed right now (flowered but not made seed yet). I usually just set it on fire in the fall but will gather seed for you if you want it.

LMK.

 

[grumpy]

Grumpy, I have a bunch of garlic chive going to seed right now (flowered but not made seed yet). I usually just set it on fire in the fall but will gather seed for you if you want it.

LMK.

Thanks Homer,
YES....I'll surely take them. Just let me know when they're ready and I'll
send you my address and some money for shipping.

Grumpy.

 

[Homer]

No problem Grumpy. It will be a couple weeks (maybe more) before the seed is ready. I'll PM you when it's time. :farmer2:

 

[michaels4gardens]

I have seen residual populations of cocci in breed stock survive the corid treatment [as it is not a coccidiocide, but a coccidiostat ] so future litters can be infected either in the nest box, or from picking up the moms poop, from the cage floor, [or from the dirt on the roots of the weeds I feed]
What I intend to do is, feed Garlic chive to all the does heavily each spring and fall,and before does kindle in the week, or 2 between litters, to try to get a "clean start" with a coccidiosis free herd before breeding season starts , so when I start feeding weeds, [and infected dirt] to them they will have a clean start. Then if I feed a little chives to the doe and litter, they may be able to withstand the infection, and develop immunity, or at least stay healthy until processing time.
What I do not know is, -- just how much Garlic Chive I can feed before I create another problem , and the rabbits develop anemia [which is theoretically possible from feeding garlic or onion too long or too much]