5 week old bunny acting... strange

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Hi everyone. So Benny and June (from the "5 day old rabbit not breathing correctly" forum) are 5 weeks old now as of Wednesday. Benny, the gray one who had the growing problem earlier, is acting really strangely. Before I begin, the other day I picked little Benny up and he managed to wiggle out of my hand and jumped onto the cement floor. Right after it happened I pressed on a few bones (legs, feet, back, neck) to see if he reacted.
He did not. Also, he may have had some of these behaviors before the drop and I will try to remember which are which. 1. He seems to get the hiccups a lot. I've read that's normal for a kit his age. But he'll just be sitting in my lap and start hiccuping for abut thirty seconds, then it'll stop. 2. He doesn't play. I could not have noticed this before the drop because I didn't allow him to run around the living room at the time. When I let him and June run around, June plays and does bunnies and explores while Benny wanders around for a while and frequently comes back to si by me. Could he just be being shy? Also, I gave them an empty toilet paper roll to play with. June chews it, throws it around, and plays, but Benny generally ignores it. Once he just sat and licked it. 3. He flattens himself a lot. He lies around with his head on the floor or my arm. He does this while he's sitting in my lap and while he is with his brother. It seems like he is just submitting to his older, clearly more dominant brother. But he always wants to sit in my lap with his head down. 4. He grinds his teeth. I'm pretty sure this was a habit before the drop, but I'm not 100% sure. While he sits on my shoulder or chest (his favorite spots to sit), he'll just suddenly start grinding his teeth, and I don't think it's the happy grinding that bunnies do when you rub their cheeks. It's pretty loud (I can hear it without listening closely and if he's a foot or two away I can hear it). He doesn't do it all the time, but pretty frequently. I can't say any of his urine or feces are abnormal. He and his brother both poop on me all the time while I'm holding them (I can differentiate between the two bunnies' feces because Benny's are smaller than June's) but I can't tell who is peeing. Also today, I was holding Benny and he kept licking me. I could be just getting worked up over an affectionate bunny, but something seems off about him. Any replies help. Thank you!
 
couple of things

1. grinding teeth tends to be a sign of pain

2. a rabbit who doesn't want to be active, particularly a kit, is a rabbit is something wrong with it.

3. a rabbit sitting with his head down is generally a rabbit in pain.

SOMETHING is wrong with that kit.

sometimes when rabbits lick it's be affectionate, and sometimes it's because they want the salt off your skin. repeated licking makes me think something is lacking in the diet.

4. rabbits with hiccups frequently have a heart problem. I learned this recently from an animal rescue person. It's something that she's learned to watch for via the university vets that she works with.

I'd be making choices on whether to cull or not....
 
I agree with everything that Ladysown posted... although I did not know about the connection between rabbit hiccups and heart problems.

What are you feeding the rabbits? A rabbit on pellets will usually get enough salt and trace minerals, but a rabbit on natural feed will require a trace mineral salt block. It can't hurt to get it a mineral salt spool and see if it helps, but I suspect a more serious health problem in this case.
 
They have a salt block and I feed them Timothy based pellets. Before they had a mixed food with rabbit treats and things mixed in, but I switched the food a few days ago because they were picking out the treats and not eating the pellets. <br /><br /> -- Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:42 am -- <br /><br /> Also, the hiccups don't last a long time and they don't happen every day.
 
Is the salt block just salt (white) or does it have trace minerals as well (usually reddish-brown)? And what percentage protein are the timothy pellets? Growing rabbits need more protein than adult rabbits, with the exception of breeding does.

I'm still inclined to think this rabbit has a congenital condition of some kind. It has been undersized from the beginning and has not grown well. It had breathing problems at 5 days. And now at 5 weeks it is not very active, shows signs of being in pain and has frequent hiccups - which Ladysown who is a very experienced member has linked with possible heart problems.

Only you can decided how to proceed. Personally, I would likely euthanize the kit to prevent it suffering. Then I would open it up and see if I could learn exactly what was wrong with it.
 
The salt block is white. Their pellets have 13% crude protein. The kit is not totally listless. He wanders around, explores, and hops around, but he just doesn't play. He also licks his brother a lot. I'm considering a vet trip to see if it could be a gas bubble or an enlarged heart. Medication, or (I hope not) euthanasia. Thank you all for the suggestions.
 
I hope that you can get to the root of the problem... and that it is something treatable.

13 % protein is very low for growing bunnies. Most people feeding pellets use alfalfa pellets with 16-18 % protein. I know a lot of pet rabbit sites suggest timothy pellets because pet rabbits sometimes tend to get fat, but while they are growing, I think they benefit from the higher protein level.
 
I will be sure to go to the order store and find a food with more protein. Thank you again! <br /><br /> -- Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:00 pm -- <br /><br /> Update... The kits are out now and Benny is playing and hopping. Still not as muh as his brother, but I have never seen a bunny as energetic as his brother. Maybe he was just in a mood? Still wouldn't explain the hiccups or teeth grinding.. Maybe he just was constipated or gasy or something?
 
Let's hope that it was just a passing discomfort. I'm glad Benny seems to be feeling better and is more energetic. About all you can do is monitor the situation and hope for the best. :clover: :clover: :clover:
 
Also, I think the red salt blocks are the ones usually used for rabbits... again, you're feeding pellets, so the trace minerals shouldn't be an issue, I don't think.

It's good to hear that Benny seems to be feeling better! It probably would be good, though, to increase their diet to at least 16%. :)
 
I plan on going to the store today to find some better pellets. Should I look for a red salt block as well?
 
As a vitamin pick me up, you could try giving 1/4 teaspoon flax seeds. I get mine from the health food section in the grocery store. They have lots of vitamin E which some people believe is one of the vitamins rabbits don't get enough of. Its a good treat for them, they absolutely love them and go crazy for them. Also good for gut slowdowns and wool block.

-- Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:41 pm --

I just read he is only 5 weeks so maybe just 1/8 teaspoon.
 
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