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These are average, run of the mill, used cages I find from time to time.
Years of abuse/neglect, leave them in less than good condition.
The one redeeming feature about these is the fact that the floor wire
is 14 gauge, galvanized AFTER welding. This wire lasts forever. If I'd
taken my time and did a little "negotiating", I could have gotten them
for a few bucks a hole cheaper.
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I also keep my eyes open for larger single units. These take a beating,
but the bigger dimensions give me the opportunity to use longer spans
in some parts of my cage re-purposing. I spend a lot of time straightening
all of the bends and "crunches" out of them once they're apart.
Being single cages, they afford me one extra side panel per unit.
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Keep a pair of good wire-cutters handy, in case you need them.
But use an awl and hammer to take the cages apart.
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Reggie helped me a little on some of the work.
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Take off the doors, spring-locks, edge guards, and set them aside.
They will be re-used on the new cage. Saves Money!!
NOTE: The cage "front" will now become the cage "back" for your new
cage. Just use scraps to fill-in-all-of-the-holes where your doors and
feeders used to go.
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This condition is nothing unusual. Almost every panel needs to be
straightened and flattened.
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Here's a step that had a lot of questions asked. The angle on the side panels.
Clamp this solidly in place. You DON'T want this thing moving when you cut it.
For every 2" of rise, you've got 3" of run. Meaning every 4th upright, you've
got a welded joint to attach the slope panel to.
NOTE: There are other ways you can do this. Using a pair of good wire cutters
can accomplish the same outcome. You'll just have sharp edges to file off.
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This tool is called a "bevel-square". It duplicates the angle you'll need to
bend the front angle on the cage front.
Set this aside someplace out of the way. You'll need this later.
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This 1/2"X1" wire is being cut into 4" tall strips for the front of the cage.
I believe it provides much more stability and rigidity for the front.
Compared to 1"X2" wire, it's stronger and less apt to "sag" over long periods of time.
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Here it is attached to the floor wire.
NOTE: The five side panels have already been installed @30" intervals on the floor.
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Next comes the rest of the front piece 10 foot long, 8 inches tall.
You can splice pieces together lengthwise for this.
Use 1"X2" wire with the 2" gap running vertical.
I use 2 boards 4 foot long to clamp the front piece with.
NOTE: The 1 inch gaps are on the "outside" of the bend.
The bend begins just past the 4" horizontal wire. This allows the
bend to come up even with or slightly above the angle on the side panel.
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Use your bevel square to check for the correct bend in the wire.
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Once this is done, change the bevel square to the angle on the top
of the side panel. They are different!
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Next comes the top panel with the angle bent for the slope.
This is also 10 foot long. However, reverse the wire with the 2"
spacing running "with" the cage itself. This piece needs to be 13" wide.
Make sure the wire is bent with the 1" run wire to the "outside" of the bend.
You'll be able to attach the door much easier later on.
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You've now got your two pieces 10 foot long with your angles ready.
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Time to start making this mess look like a cage. Start clamping!!
Raise the back panel and clamp it and the side panels together.
Raise the 1/2"X1"X4" front-wire and clamp it to the side panels.
Place your two 10 foot pieces, top and bottom and clamp them in place.
With all of this done, you'll have 4 basic pens with large gaping holes
where the doors should go. However, the openings are far too large.
You'll need to cut 3-12"tall--1"X2"X18" panels and 2-12"tall--1"X2"X9" panels.
They'll look something like these.
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The two 9" panels are attached to the outer edges of the cage.
The three 18" panels are centered over each divider and clamped.
This will give you a 12" wide, 10" tall door opening for each cage.
You can re-install the door guards.
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You'll have to cut 2" off each of the upright door guards.
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Here's where the clamp-rings come in handy.
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You can see where the rings attach the side panels to the sloped front.
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Re-attach your doors w/your repurposed spring latches.
Add your galvanized steel conduit for strength and................
your about done!
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I've still got to cut and install the floor spreaders I make out of
repurposed cattle panels. Plus do the water lines.

Any questions, just ask away.

BTW: We got a bit of snow yesterday. I had to plough through
a 3 foot drift to get into the barn!
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Very nice Grumpy. Soooooo many tools that I could use lol. I love your setup and wish mine was like that. Is there heat in your barn or are you the type who doesn't mind working in the freezing cold?
 
Very interesting Grumpy. What do you attach your conduit stiffeners with? Nylon tie wraps?

Could we have a picture or two when you put the floor spreaders in??
 
mystang89":rpnagxf2 said:
Very nice Grumpy. Soooooo many tools that I could use lol. I love your setup and wish mine was like that. Is there heat in your barn or are you the type who doesn't mind working in the freezing cold?

I've got a small electric heater set on low that runs in my shop 24/7.
That old calico cat you see in some of the pics is 17 years old.
Miss Piggy has been my barn-cat-buddy all of these years and I don't
want her suffering from this cold weather.

I've got a larger forced-air propane heater that I turn on for 10-20 minutes to raise the shop temps. Once it's comfortable, I'll shut it off and dial up
my little shop heater while I'm in there working. Miss Piggy likes it. LOL.

I'm too old to suffer this cold weather. I'll leave that for the young pups
of this world. Me.....I like "comfy" !

grumpy. <br /><br /> __________ Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:29 am __________ <br /><br />
Homer":rpnagxf2 said:
Very interesting Grumpy. What do you attach your conduit stiffeners with? Nylon tie wraps?

Could we have a picture or two when you put the floor spreaders in??

Zip-ties!! LOL. They work great and the rabbits have yet to cut one.

I was planning of taking pics of the floor spreaders along with the water
line installation.

grumpy
 
grumpy":3j5vwojf said:
I'm too old to suffer this cold weather. I'll leave that for the young pups
of this world. Me.....I like "comfy" !

I hear that. I'm too young to suffer the cold weather. I wonder when its just the right age... :?

It surprises me that a small electric heater can heat that entire barn, it looks pretty big. I may have to invest in one for my little garage. Last one I got was an oil filled radiant heater that....did...nothing :neutral:
 
mystang89":1ekrdp7a said:
grumpy":1ekrdp7a said:
I'm too old to suffer this cold weather. I'll leave that for the young pups
of this world. Me.....I like "comfy" !

I hear that. I'm too young to suffer the cold weather. I wonder when its just the right age... :?

It surprises me that a small electric heater can heat that entire barn, it looks pretty big. I may have to invest in one for my little garage. Last one I got was an oil filled radiant heater that....did...nothing :neutral:

OH No!! I've got a shop I built "inside" the barn. LOL. It's a 16'X32' room
that's been insulated w//R-17 insulation and sheet-rocked.

Now....my rabbit rooms are insulated as well, but w/no heat. However,
the rooms stay warmer than the rest of the barn due to the animals' body heat.

I've got a new buck that hasn't learned how to operate the water nipples yet.
His water bowl has not frozen thus far this year. Knock on wood.

grumpy.
 
grumpy":u6u619np said:
OH No!! I've got a shop I built "inside" the barn. LOL. It's a 16'X32' room
that's been insulated w//R-17 insulation and sheet-rocked.

Now....my rabbit rooms are insulated as well, but w/no heat. However,
the rooms stay warmer than the rest of the barn due to the animals' body heat.

I've got a new buck that hasn't learned how to operate the water nipples yet.
His water bowl has not frozen thus far this year. Knock on wood.

grumpy.

THAT explains it! lol With the insulation and the sheet-rock plus being inside the actual barn and having an electric heater I can see it not being too hard to keep it at a comfortable temp.
 
Nice tutorial, Grumpy! I made some slant front cages a while back myself, but I bent the cut wires over the top wires for added strength. Probably overkill, but they are outdoors and I wanted them to be as secure as possible.

grumpy":3s50kf1k said:
I've got a new buck that hasn't learned how to operate the water nipples yet.

When my water lines shattered during a hard freeze I had to use crocks for an extended period of time until Hubs and Firstpup got around to fixing it.

Once it was up and running again, the rabbits needed to be retrained to the nipples. I put some molasses in a syringe and squirted a bit on each valve, and they quickly learned to use them again.

I do the same when moving an animal from the growout area (which has crocks) back to the main barn which has valves. It hasn't failed me yet!
 
Thanks for sharing that information Grumpy.
I have almost completed changing one cage over.
I am held up due to PLENTY of SNOW!
I will post a pic as soon as I am finished with this first one.
I have fitted a feeder but need to lock on the other side
and then the Door. Your info has been a great help.
When I first started I had acquired quite a few old chicken cages.
like you I took them apart, flattened and reused whatever was usable.
Like you, cold does not serve me well! I opt for warmth.
Ottersatin. :eek:ldtimer:
 
I love how you made this. It gives me a good idea of how to construct cages like yours. Mine will just have to be bigger to accommodate Flemish mixes.
 
Finishing up. I've got one more ten-foot, 4-holer to make.
I don't believe I'll take pics of that one...LOL.

Here's the section of cattle panel I chopped up for the floor spreaders.
I used bolt cutters to cut it into more manageable pieces.
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My cut-off wheel started petering out on me...
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had to change it.
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THERE!! That's better. LOL.
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Funky-lookin' hunk-a-junk...ain't it!! That's okay though.
A little elbow grease and it'll shine like a new dime.
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Here it is installed. I left the crossbars on it.
They're centered under the cross-wires so poop shouldn't get stuck.
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All four are in place. It's kind of hard to see them clearly.
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I used the water-line out of the old set I took out.
The nipples were on 24" centers. I cut and added a 6" piece to each one.
You can easily see the spring clamps I use to hold the pipe in place.
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That's it folks..........I'm toast!! Wore slick!! Went through the fryers
and I've got 35 head ready to ship at 5:30 tomorrow morning.
Got the chores done early so I could finish this post up.
BTW: Yesterday was the first day I fed over 100 pounds of feed.
My pocketbook feels "pinched".... :x :x :x :x

Grumpy.
 
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