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@reh I'll check that out, thanks! I've read a few textbooks on rabbit genes/colouration as well as other mammal coat patterns but it's always classical genetics, not modern genetics. It looks like this book does discuss modern/molecular genetics, but as it's mice and not rabbits it won't have...

Edit: Actually you can ignore everything below this and just look at: https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3417/11/1/373/pdf This 2019-2020 study says everything all these links below say, that is tested and known. It would appear further colour mutation gene mechanisms are unknown, although this paper...

Hello again, been a while since I've popped by. I'm getting back into my research and needed some help. I've searched the forum and found a few discussions about this, but nothing comprehensive. Does anyone have a list of all the genes mutated at each locus? From my research this is as far as...

@hotcatz, yeah I know the probabilities are specific to each kit and not litters, but I guess I haven't seen a series of rolls of the dice quite this weighted before! Hopefully next time it weights the other way to make up for it, because I want full color kits, not albinos... @SableSteel I...

Oh, interesting. I haven't reached out directly to anyone, just done some posting on forums and communities like this one when I couldn't find answers just from research. I'll probably wait a bit before reaching out to anyone (I'm still early enough in my researching and self-study that every...

So I have a doe who I bred for the first time recently. She's a chestnut. Her father was a purebred American Chinchilla. So she should be Ccchd. I bred her to my ermine buck, his father was a NZW, so I know he carries c. But with my doe's parentage, I didn't expect any red eyes. A_B_cchdcD_ee...

I've now read through several textbooks which were to varying degrees full of information about distinct autosomnal genes, and read through every scholarly article I could keep my eyes uncrossed for about gene mutations, and many many breeder blogs... in the end I could find very, very little...

Well, f is already in use for furless so you couldn't use that, but generally alleles are named by those who discover the gene. However, in order to claim that face furnishings are a gene you have to prove they follow basic Mendelian inheritance (or that they're sex-linked) and that it's...

Yeah, Astrex is weird. I mentioned it in Wavy/Waved; as of writing this the closest I could get to an understanding of it was that it was r3r3wawa, but even that's probably only partially true or a simplification. I imagine the reason most places only bother talking about rex, angora, and satin...

It's also sometimes called "black agouti," "dark extension," "dark steel" ... I think it's pretty rare still so the naming is a little all over the place. You only see it in some literature about the E locus. Edit: I'm reading the Handbook on Genetics Vol 4 chapter on rabbits where they call Ed...

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people get into rabbit genetics in order to improve their breed and show rabbits but I'm the opposite. Just like I'm not a fan of purebred dog breeding (mixed breeds are so much healthier and unique! Purebreeding for function/attitude like with working dogs is different...

Hmm, the only other gene I know of that adds wool like angora would be maned, which is what the Lionhead has and has been bred back to some larger breed populations. From what I understand, maned appeared as a novel mutation in the 1900s when ND breeders started crossing NDs with mini Swiss Fox...

Most of the conversation about rabbit genetics by hobbyist breeders is about color and pattern, but there's a whole third category worth diving into which is coat structure. While the woolly angora and soft, short furred rex are fairly common and popular, there's actually a collection of coat...

That's a good point Zass. I do plan on doing some linebreeding in my breeding program over the coming years to reenforce my desired phenos, so maybe I'll get lucky. I've heard linebreeding is safe to ~7 generations if you start with healthy rabbits but that would be ~7 years (maybe half if I do...

Ok, hear me out. In 1892, Wilhelm Mucke started trying to breed a white rabbit without red eyes. Reportedly, he started with breeding Dutch rabbits, and once he crossed them with the white varieties of Flemish Giant and Holland Lop he managed to get a pure white rabbit with blue eyes. He...

Thanks. Sounds like I've still got some reading to do.

That article is where I learned about lo to begin with! :) Cool, good to know manes are becoming more popular in larger breeds. I figured they would be, since it's a neat trait, and no reason for it to stay limited to the dwarf breeds. It seems like breeding for lo should be avoided but I...

Ah, that makes sense and kind of what I expected. So "dominant black" isn't a great name for Ed, as it more mimics homozygous self on the A locus. It would extend the black (or base colour) in a chin all the way down the hair shaft as well then, I presume, since chin just knocks out...

Something I've found very elusive in my study of rabbit genetics has been details about the modifier genes. I've seen them mentioned over and over on many sites, mostly in the form of "there are also modifier genes like rufus, plus/minus (blanket/spot) modifiers, and color intensifiers." And...

Hey all, I'm new. I've recently got super interested in rabbit genetics. There's a wealth of information about the colour and pattern genes: A, B, C, D, E, En, Du, Si, V, W, P And there's also information about coat structure genes: f (furless), l (long/angora), r (rex), sa (satin), wa...