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  1. J

    Interesting litter

    Okay, Flemish have interesting color names. Translated: Fawn--rich golden straw color, shading to light cream at base Sandy--chestnut brown, brassy reddish intermediate band, slate gray undercoat--aka chestnut or castor agouti Frosty/ermine--(not a showable color, but it occurs when fawn 'ee'...
  2. J

    What color is this doe?

    The eye rings say either tan 'a(t)' or agouti 'A_'. The banding on the ear hair says it is agouti: The silver band says chinchilla or sable. The lighter shading down the sides of the rabbit looks like a sable based color, which would make it a sable chinchilla. That's my guess, anyway.
  3. J

    Help with genotype

    It's actually a high rufus Satin Angora chocolate agouti. This is her at two weeks, just looking like a plain chocolate agouti: Once the high rufus orange bands started to grow in, she ended up looking like a red, didn't she? When you look at the fiber closely, you can still see the chocolate...
  4. J

    What color is this doe?

    Isn't it wonderful! Rabbit Talk said they were working on it, and it looks like they did, woo hoo!
  5. J

    What color is this doe?

    I can see the thumbnails now, but cannot enlarge them to really see the photo. I tried .png in text paste and as a picture with the button to the right of the link button on a test thread, nothing posted. I finally did get a .jpg to load as a thumbnail, using the attach files button on the...
  6. J

    Help with genotype

    Trying again, photos are not showing up on the other threads either. One person got a .jpg through, although when you clicked on it, there was nothing to see. I sure hope Rabbit Talk can get .png pictures to post again, and that the enlarge feature works again. Sure is missed. Here's another try...
  7. J

    Help with genotype

    Fascinating, thanks for the update.
  8. J

    Help with genotype

    This is a high-rufus (out of a red) Satin Angora chocolate agouti. She was born a lovely dark chocolate with the white agouti inner ears, but as the coat grew out the red shade is all you really notice. I looked up to see what the official definition of chocolate agouti was in a non-angora...
  9. J

    Struggling With Heavy Losses

    My mentor taught me this trick over forty years ago, and it still works! Sure is hard to sit quietly while they warm up, but it so amazing to feel those cold, sad lumps start to make the first movements. You'd swear those cold bodies were dead, especially when they were born out on the wire...
  10. J

    Struggling With Heavy Losses

    So sorry to hear of your losses, it's always heartbreaking, no matter how many years you've been doing this. A few questions--can you describe the condition of the dead kits? Were they flattened, like they had been stomped on? Chewed on? Out of the nestbox and chilled? Looking thin and wrinkly...
  11. J

    Help with genotype

    Yes, good point, it could be a wide band chocolate agouti. Agouti rabbits have three distinct bands on the fiber. The outer tip color (which is either black or chocolate, or their dilute colors blue or lilac), the middle band which is some yellowish tint (red/orange/fawn/cream) and the base...
  12. J

    Help with genotype

    Mom is non-agouti, and can only supply an 'a'. Dad is agouti and has passed agouti onto both of the kits, so he gave an 'A', which makes the kits 'Aa'. The chestnut kit on the left has black, as chestnut is just another name for black agouti. The kit on the right looks like a red/fawn, but...
  13. J

    Pedigree Regulations

    You're right, I have purchased rabbits with pedigrees that had no tattoo, and I was responsible for tattooing them myself.
  14. J

    Pedigree Regulations

    You do not need to have any pedigree at all to be allowed to sell rabbits. If you want to sell "pedigreed" rabbits, the American Rabbit Breeders Association (ARBA) sells a book of blank rabbit pedigrees. https://arba.net/product/arba-pedigree-book/ Simply fill in the blanks. A pedigree is simply...
  15. J

    ARBA Standards

    ARBA shows are not grading on rate of gain, background genetics, or what the pedigree looks like. Judging is done only on 'phenotype', what the rabbit looks like at the time of judging. Get a copy of ARBA's Standard of Perfection, which will tell you exactly what the judges are looking for in...
  16. J

    Question about Charlies

    Okay, let's start with the 'C' color gene. There are five options here, in descending order of dominance: Full color 'C'. In this option, all the pigment factories are open for business, they can print whatever color the other genes say to print. Examples would be castor/chestnut agouti, opal...
  17. J

    Question about Charlies

    Ah, are these the ones you posted earlier in a different thread? Is the "charlie" the one with pink eyes, the broken Himalayan? It's almost impossible on a broken himi to see what the broken pattern would have looked like, how much color she would have had, if the spots were not white spots on...
  18. J

    Question about Charlies

    I have heard of it being done when there's no question who the dad is, like breeding a solid doe to a Charlie, and then to another solid. All the broken kits will be from the Charlie, the rest would be sired by the second buck. This would give you more than one line from a single doe at a single...
  19. J

    Question about Charlies

    I'm not sure why you would want dual siring. As I understand it, it simply means the doe bred to more than one buck, which means that you don't know who the dad is on a given kit. This is not an uncommon practice for those working with other types of animals of great value that are doing AI or...
  20. J

    Question about Charlies

    Broken is a dominant trait, coded 'En'. Standard show rabbits are En en, one broken dominant and one solid recessive, which gives you the normal 40-60% color pattern (with a lot of other associated polygenes controlling pattern style and amount of color). Charlies are double dominant En En. By...
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