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I think it is fascinating that this all works like the dot matrix in a printer (or television). The printer only has three colors plus black to print dots on the paper. Yet our eyes see the nuances of skin tones and shadowing in the finished picture, even though those colors are not in the ink...

No difference at all, red is a red agouti, A_ + ee + rufus modifiers, sorry for the confusion.

So, if it's not rufus that makes copper (the Angora Standard of Perfection calls for a 'rufus red' surface color and a bright red-orange middle band), what makes copper different from chestnut agouti?

Wouldn't the steel E(S) gene also remove the agouti markings? Wild gray chestnuts look just like regular chestnuts, with all the agouti markings, and usually chestnut-looking hair on the face, except the dark tip and tan band is tiny like a steel, and the rest of the fiber is gray.

@reh , I so appreciate your time and help with these questions. The American Rabbit Breeders Association (ARBA) determines what color banding is 'proper' when judging a rabbit for show. I realize that they judge on phenotype, what you see, as opposed to genotype or the scientific study of the...

Tricolor is broken plus harlequin e(j)__. Harlequin e(j) e(j) overrides agouti, self, and tan. Green Barn Farm has an excellent page at https://www.gbfarm.org/rabbit/steel-phenotype-chart.shtml to show how harlequin interacts with the 'A' agouti gene. Sometimes e(j) e rabbits can show slight...

I have a citizen-science request. Does anyone here have a rabbit with multiple agouti bands in the fiber? This chocolate agouti has chocolate/fawn/dove gray bands. The ARBA Standard of Perfection calls for 'one or more' bands. Here's the request: if you have a rabbit with multiple bands like...

Thanks so much for your input--the coppers I have seen all had a lot of rufus as well. This doe threw black based colors to the previous owner's black buck, but only chocolate based colors when bred to my red buck (who is out of chocolate lines). The Satin colors really don't look the same as...

@Alaska Satin, you raise Satins (this one happens to be Satin Angora). I've only had self-chocolate Satin Angora once, decades ago. I purchased what was supposed to be a sable Angora doe, a color I'd never seen before at the time. Her face looked very similar in color to this doe, but the fiber...

This is solving lots of mysteries, I have one more. Opal tends to look all blue, like Wild Gray looks all gray. Does anyone here have an opal rabbit that you can check out the agouti banding? Does opal send the banding near the tip like wild gray does?

Amazing. Great photos to illustrate it. Thank you for taking the time to test this.

Interesting color, thank you so much for adding this. The guard hair banding is fascinating, as if the entire color band series was pushed to the end of the hairshaft, I would never have expected the rest of the guard hair to have been white.

This rabbit came to me secondhand, no clue as to her parentage. Just to look at her, the face says sable/seal. But she has eye rings, an orange triangle on the neck, and those tiny bands near the tip of the fiber. The base of the fiber is dark charcoal, you'd swear the tips are black: But look...

I don't have samples quite the way you wanted, but did the best I could. I don't raise steels, so I can't take photos for you straight from the rabbit, but I had some steel fiber. I put them in a separate thread...

Okay, @reh this is the tough one, as I have no face hairs or aligned fibers to work with. I did have very small samples of blue, lilac and high-rufus chocolate steel fiber. I did my best to find shorter fibers to check, but I don't know that any of this would be conclusive, based on the nature...

This is another wild gray chestnut English Angora: This sample is from the face hair. You can see the chestnut banding near the tip. . .but look at the growing fiber: And this is the doe: So, I think this explains why I could never find the 'middle' agouti bands, they aren't in the middle...

@reh I have tried to do as you asked, and take photos of the banded/ticked hair. I raise English & Satin Angoras, with fine static-charged fiber, and this has proved to be quite a challenge. Once I finally would get a few hairs pulled free to put on the white paper, they would either fly away...

I love the idea of free-range, but I have a multi-species pasture caveat. . .a friend of mine had her rabbits in cages with an external trough-type automatic waterer. She later started having major health issues in her rabbits-- her vet finally traced it to the Muscovy ducks using the water...

I agree that this can be confusing. Here is an English Angora rabbit. In the back, you can see the full coat. To the right, the outer coat has been removed, leaving the intermediate coat. At the bottom you can see a third coat emerging from the skin. While it looks like there are three separate...

Do you know what causes the cells to cease production of pigment?