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Yeah... 10-15 seconds could seem like eternity if the pain was severe enough. As for drugs... that seems like a bad idea too as it "may" contaminate the meat. Not sure on that I'm not a doctor. (I only role played one as a child) Once upon a time I was having back surgery. During the procedure I...

Thanks. I'm not overly concerned about cost. It's a one time thing anyway. Especially considering it was my fault we are in this mess. Caging 24/7 seems like unnecessary cruelty. While they all have hutches, they also have a "play area" to visit as they please. It provides a sense of freedom...

Outstanding response! This is a difficult topic to discuss in public, with the public and varied opinions / experience. That being said, I truly appreciate the fact based info without dancing around the questions. My tolerance has degraded to the point where I simply can't afford mistakes. I...

This is several weeks later. He's a big boy now!

Agree with the extreme fencing. We use 8' railroad cross-ties for the posts & steel cable for the runners. The concern isn't so much an escape, it's stupid people thinking they can hunt privately owned livestock. So far, the biggest expense has been fencing. Vet bills are amazingly small. We do...

Extremely well written. Good info!

In our case, the field where we grow our alfalfa is a couple miles from the barn. Transportation & storage would be an issue if it wasn't baled. Another issue, as someone else mentioned is that once dried, leaves & stems tend to separate. When baled, regardless of size, that doesn't happen.

Those stories are always better with happy endings.

This conversation makes me wonder whatever happened to that cute little Taco Bell dog.

That's the ultimate goal here. Difficult as this topic may be for some, it might prove worthwhile for you to write out extremely detailed instructions of your method, including a description & source of your bolt gun. Perhaps a video using a stuffed animal too. This has the potential of others...

My first thought was a virus of some sort. Obviously you thought that too by the corrective actions you took. While these forums are an excellent source of first hand knowledge, I think it's time for professional help. An online vet may help but a vet with local knowledge would be better. I...

You are right on every point. One observation I've recently made is that the "suggested" caliber should be at a minimum .22 for a bullet or 6mm for a captive bolt. Many choose air rifles w/ pellets. The potential problem I see there is most are only .177 cal. While this will eventually do the...

Sorry... I jumped the gun & took a defensive stance assuming it was censorship of sorts. Remember AOL? Once upon a time they were THE place for just about any discussion. Pretty much a monopoly and they killed it from within. They ended up in last place, in just a few short years and barely...

Yours is the type of method I'm advocating. Seriously, I get it that it's natural and necessary. Merely trying to make sure we are doing our best. I say "we" in that the day may come when I'm forced to as well. As a matter of fact, if / when the time comes that I'm personally confident that I've...

We have 5 acres planted in alfalfa. Super easy to grow, harvest & store. Obviously you don't need that much area. You get several cuttings per year. Cut it when the foliage is green in dry weather. Then let it dry where it fell for two days. We have a homemade bailer that produces 3 wire 100lb...

Great info! Being new at this, I'm afraid to deviate from standard procedure. We always have several tons of alfalfa on hand and occasionally oat hay (the oat hay is for the horses to snack on if they get bored) I've given the oat hay to our rabbits. They seem to like it but not so much that I'm...

Are you implying that this is a forbidden topic?

Agreed, however, I don't think that was suggested. I certainly hope nobody is stupid enough to try that.

Yes really. There is a colossal difference between varied opinions and unsubstantiated personal & family attacks. I fail to see anything good coming from rehashing this.

I'm really glad you survived... twice! And thanks for sharing your incredible story. I'm not concerned of my own death, that should have come long ago. When it does there won't be much I can do about it. Slaughtering animals though, we have options. And yes, I believe you are 100% correct about...