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Thanks, that makes much more sense. The agouti gene seems to play a big role in all of the different E alleles.

That's strange they aren't showing up for me either. Maybe computers are out to get me after all. So the agouti cleans up the patterning and gives it more of a... traditional harli look I guess you would say. Once I figure out what's wrong with the photo upload I'll post them. The black harli...

The more I read about the ej gene the more confused I am. At first it sounded like you could only get harlis with aa, but then I started reading that you need agouti to get harlis. I just had a litter from my lilac self buck (who's father is black harli) and my black tort doe. I ended up with 2...