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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:46 pm 
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So I'm just curious.

Why is it considered unfair to be willing to barter?

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Who says it is unfair? Can you give us a bit of detail or a hypothetical example if you don't want to tell the actual story?


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Someone asked how much I wanted for a couple of rabbits that I am unsure on what to do for price.

I said for what I consider pet quality rabbits I get from $20-90, and that I've been told that sometimes I undersell my rabbits, and was told that it was unfair to leave it open like that.

I went on to add that I'm willing to barter rabbits, but I'm not willing to give them away (except in very rare circumstances).

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I think people get confused by flexible pricing ..
I would say my standard fee is XX - but for certainly special rabbits I might ask (less) or (more)

as well I'm always willing to consider a barter for something of equal value

if somebody says that's unfair I think they are smoking something ;)

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For pet rabbits I have a set price ($40.00) because well, they're just pets.

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"just pets"

what does that mean?

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i do like that... to say that you are willing to barter.

some people simply don't know how to barter though.

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that is very true - they think barter is a give away .. just can't catch the concept that equal value is exchanged

still puzzling over the "just pets" comment

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Just pets, as in not of breeding or show quality. I see it as unfair that say one person could get a $10.00 pet from me, and then someone else had to pay $50.00 for a pet. So if I have a set price no one feels like they're getting ripped off.

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I have no idea why someone would say it was unfair to barter. I love the option and I would totally try to work something out with you for a couple of your harlies if you lived in my area so I could try the breed out. :) I wouldn't worry about that one person too much.

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I guess I can see why someone would be hmm...unhappy...and say it's 'unfair' to ask them to barter or set a price for you. I'm one of those that has a hard time pricing my animals. When I meet another person like me, and try to buy something from them, I see the frustration of it.
me: "well, what will you take for them?" ...
them: "oh...make me an offer". ....
me: "I don't want to offend you with lowballing...what kind of figure were you wanting?" ....
them: "oh, what you got for trade?"
me, thinking :how the heck am I supposed to offer somethign for barter if I don't have a clue what kind of PRICE RANGE they want?"

see the problem? :lol:

went thru that recently on some eggs. I finally got fed up and gave my price I'd pay. (it didn't end well)


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the thing is I give people a ball park usually (and in this case I did), like...I would like to get $50 for her, if they counter offer with... I'll give you $40 (i'm happy) or if I say,.. I have NO clue what I should sell her for, most of my rabbits I sell for $20-40, what do you seriously think she's worth on the breeder market?

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I've never negotiated prices on rabbits, but from what I've learned at collectibles markets and yard sales, the seller always needs to have a figure in mind. You may be willing to take much less, but as a seller you need to put a figure out there. You can always say something like: "I'm asking $50 for this rabbit but I'm willing to take a little less in this case because a) I need the cage space. B) I can see you will give him a good home." Or any other reason that lets the buyer make an offer. Buyer, scenting a bargain, says: "How about $30?" "How about $40?" you reply, which is likely what you expected all along. But you pretty much have to throw out a starting price.


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I love bartering. I got 24 fence post holes dug free in exchange for an aromatherapy blend and 2 fryers. I got the help I needed getting rafters up on my coop for a few bags of fresh vegies and a jar of pickled garlic basil green beans. I got 4 bags of wood stove pellets (I use it in litter boxes) for 2 dozen eggs. I've traded a broody hen for a Americauna. I borrow an incubator for two of the hatched chicks, and so on and so on. It takes a bit to figure out what's fair and what's not but in the end, if you both get what you both need without anyone having to bit the bullet, it's a fair deal. For example, the stove pellets weren't working well for the fellow and I need them. Two dozen eggs I can sell for 5 bucks, 4 bags of stove pellets puts me back $20 plus tax. But the fellow can't buy pastured fresh eggs for less than $5 a dozen and he got the pellets at half price. So even though it looks unbalanced, both of us got a great deal. The incubator, well I don't have to buy one so that saves me a bundle and it doesn't cost her a thing to lend it to me and she gets two more chickens. If I can't barter, I have a fixed price and I don't negotiate(fertile eggs and worm casings), I ask for the going rate. And I do that for two reasons, I don't haggle well and end up with a price I do not like and I can always use the items myself if I can't get my price.


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One would think only the "goverment" would think bartering unfair lol They can't tax you on it!!!


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