Rabbits for profit… Rabbits for fun… Rabbits for just about everyone…

It is currently Wed May 23, 2012 2:21 pm 






Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Previous topic | Next topic 

  Print view

Author Message
 Post subject: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:13 am 
User avatar

Joined: Jun 22 2011
Posts: 84
Location: Ok, USA
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 0 in 0 post
Cash on hand:
535.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
So here are our surprise babies. I am thinking they are 3 weeks old. The Buck is a black tort and the doe is a broken black tort. You can see their pedigrees here http://www.lopsbyleah.com (Lopsy and Jaylene)
Thank you

I know I have two black torts.

I am pretty sure this doe is a broken black tort? But her color seems to be lighter and different that my other broken black torts. What do you think?
Image
Image
Image

Here is the other one in question. I am thinking sable point? Maybe broken sable point? Her mother's breeder said that the line has thrown sable points before.

Image
Image
Image
Image

_________________
Image Deena Homeschooling, Homebirthing, mom, grandma, midwife
www.lopsbyleah.com
www.tulsahomebirth.com


Top
 Profile E-mail  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:58 am 
User avatar

Joined: Nov 03 2011
Posts: 3524
Images: 11
Location: CA
Thanks: 317
Thanked: 294 in 274 posts
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
18,670.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Online Online
I think I see a white blaze on #2's head- and her lips are white too. I'm not familiar with the color standards, but I think she is a broken of whatever her base color is- when we have broken Siamese kittens it is really hard to see the white markings at first (especially the flame points), although I've gotten pretty good at it.


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:01 am 

Joined: Jun 30 2011
Posts: 30
Images: 0
Location: michigan
Thanks: 0
Thanked: 1 in 1 post
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
190.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
I don't know what color they are but they are ADORABLE! :)


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:31 am 
User avatar

Joined: Jun 22 2011
Posts: 84
Location: Ok, USA
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 0 in 0 post
Cash on hand:
535.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
MamaSheepdog wrote:
I think I see a white blaze on #2's head- and her lips are white too. I'm not familiar with the color standards, but I think she is a broken of whatever her base color is- when we have broken Siamese kittens it is really hard to see the white markings at first (especially the flame points), although I've gotten pretty good at it.


That is what I was thinking. I have been looking at pictures. I am thinking broken sable point. There are some white "spots" on the back too. The broken pattern looks almost the same as her sister.

__________ Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:31 am __________

4hgirl wrote:
I don't know what color they are but they are ADORABLE! :)


Thank you! We think so, what a great surprise they were!

It was the little broken doe hopping around in the colony that let us know about her.

_________________
Image Deena Homeschooling, Homebirthing, mom, grandma, midwife
www.lopsbyleah.com
www.tulsahomebirth.com


Top
 Profile E-mail  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:33 am 
User avatar

Joined: Nov 03 2011
Posts: 3524
Images: 11
Location: CA
Thanks: 317
Thanked: 294 in 274 posts
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
18,670.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Online Online
I thought I saw some white on her body as well, but it's hard to know if it's just the lighting in the pics. Do the pointed colors darken on the body like it does with Siamese cats? I love the contrast of white to color- gotta love that white-spotting gene!


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:39 am 
User avatar

Joined: Jun 22 2011
Posts: 84
Location: Ok, USA
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 0 in 0 post
Cash on hand:
535.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
MamaSheepdog wrote:
I thought I saw some white on her body as well, but it's hard to know if it's just the lighting in the pics. Do the pointed colors darken on the body like it does with Siamese cats? I love the contrast of white to color- gotta love that white-spotting gene!


From what I understand a sable point looks like a siamese cat. They are usually darker though.

The mom is a broken tort and the dad is a black tort. The does's line has been known to throw sable points, which is why I suspect sable point, but maybe broken cause of the white. Sure not what I expected!

__________ Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:39 am __________

This website has some great pictures of colors. You can see the sable point and then if you scroll down the broken sable point.

http://www.gbfarm.org/rabbit/holland-co ... aded.shtml

_________________
Image Deena Homeschooling, Homebirthing, mom, grandma, midwife
www.lopsbyleah.com
www.tulsahomebirth.com


Top
 Profile E-mail  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:09 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Nov 03 2011
Posts: 3524
Images: 11
Location: CA
Thanks: 317
Thanked: 294 in 274 posts
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
18,670.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Online Online
[quote="home*sweet*home"]
The mom is a broken tort and the dad is a black tort. The does's line has been known to throw sable points, which is why I suspect sable point, but maybe broken cause of the white. Sure not what I expected!

__________ Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:39 am __________

A surprise litter in more ways than one! :) After viewing the link, she looks like a blue to me- notice how much darker the body color is in the sable point kit.


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:29 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Jun 22 2011
Posts: 84
Location: Ok, USA
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 0 in 0 post
Cash on hand:
535.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
MamaSheepdog wrote:
home*sweet*home wrote:
The mom is a broken tort and the dad is a black tort. The does's line has been known to throw sable points, which is why I suspect sable point, but maybe broken cause of the white. Sure not what I expected!

__________ Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:39 am __________

A surprise litter in more ways than one! :) After viewing the link, she looks like a blue to me- notice how much darker the body color is in the sable point kit.


Do you think a broken blue tort?

__________ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:29 pm __________

What about a frosty?
http://www.gbfarm.org/rabbit/holland-co ... band.shtml

_________________
Image Deena Homeschooling, Homebirthing, mom, grandma, midwife
www.lopsbyleah.com
www.tulsahomebirth.com


Top
 Profile E-mail  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:33 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Nov 03 2011
Posts: 3524
Images: 11
Location: CA
Thanks: 317
Thanked: 294 in 274 posts
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
18,670.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Online Online
In pics 1 and 2 it looks like she has a hint of orange under her eye and on the muzzle, but I don't see that in the other pics. I don't see any orange on her saddle at all, so I'm going with broken blue. Too bad JWQ is still on vacation- she'd probably know. BrambleHedge probably would too- what time is it in Australia, anyway???


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:42 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Jun 22 2011
Posts: 84
Location: Ok, USA
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 0 in 0 post
Cash on hand:
535.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
I sent pictures of the babies to the second breeder that wanted the mother and I didnt mention the colors (just the funny story) and she said she looks like a broken sable point.

Maybe they can have lighter shades?

_________________
Image Deena Homeschooling, Homebirthing, mom, grandma, midwife
www.lopsbyleah.com
www.tulsahomebirth.com


Top
 Profile E-mail  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:20 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Nov 03 2011
Posts: 3524
Images: 11
Location: CA
Thanks: 317
Thanked: 294 in 274 posts
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
18,670.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Online Online
I'm sure they can- the better quality Siamese cats keep a very pale coat on the saddle.

In cats, the seal is always a true brown, without the ticking of lighter hairs that the bun has. I don't know if rabbits shed those hairs out, leaving only the darker fur that is beneath, but cats don't.

Which pics did you send to the breeder? In the ones in front of the tree, she has more brown tones- esp. on her nose. The bottom two show blue tones, but her right ear looks brown. Could she be a sable and blue broken harl? Is there such a thing?


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Years of membership
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:37 pm 

Joined: Aug 25 2010
Posts: 969
Images: 6
Location: Pa
Thanks: 0
Thanked: 37 in 37 posts
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
4,720.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
blue torts and broken sable points.I raise Holland lops too.


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:21 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Jun 22 2011
Posts: 84
Location: Ok, USA
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 0 in 0 post
Cash on hand:
535.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
MamaSheepdog wrote:
I'm sure they can- the better quality Siamese cats keep a very pale coat on the saddle.

In cats, the seal is always a true brown, without the ticking of lighter hairs that the bun has. I don't know if rabbits shed those hairs out, leaving only the darker fur that is beneath, but cats don't.

Which pics did you send to the breeder? In the ones in front of the tree, she has more brown tones- esp. on her nose. The bottom two show blue tones, but her right ear looks brown. Could she be a sable and blue broken harl? Is there such a thing?


I sent all 4 pictures I have of her.

I think the white you are talking about is the broken part? I cant wait to see what she looks like when she grows. I just keep sticking to sable point because out of torts and a scattered blue tort I cant imagine getting anything, but this line is know to have an occational sable point.

__________ Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:21 pm __________

curlysue wrote:
blue torts and broken sable points.I raise Holland lops too.


Who's the blue tort and who's the broken sable point?

_________________
Image Deena Homeschooling, Homebirthing, mom, grandma, midwife
www.lopsbyleah.com
www.tulsahomebirth.com


Top
 Profile E-mail  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:57 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Nov 03 2011
Posts: 3524
Images: 11
Location: CA
Thanks: 317
Thanked: 294 in 274 posts
Country: United States (us)
Cash on hand:
18,670.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Online Online
I was talking about the lighter hairs on the ears.


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
 Post subject: Re: What color are these hollands
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:48 am 
User avatar

Joined: Nov 28 2011
Posts: 339
Images: 8
Location: Victoria, Australia
Thanks: 89
Thanked: 31 in 31 posts
Country: Australia (au)
Cash on hand:
1,777.00 BunnyBucks

Currently: Offline Offline
Fisrt let me say they ae outstanding babies I love their chubby little faces, I am thinking the first little broken bunny is a broken Sooty Fawn (Black Tort), and the other little kit is looking like a point by the light shading over its hindquarters, althought the colour on her ears is puzzling me, I will be interested in what others think.

_________________
:) Hearty discussion is the sharing of knowledge = and knowledge is never a bad thing :)

:pinkbunny: http://www.minilop.webs.com :pinkbunny:


Top
 Profile E-mail Personal album  
Post Permalink  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next


Similar topics

Use of Fuzzy Netherlands/Fuzzy Hollands in Breeding Progams? Author: KKRabbitry
Forum: Rabbit Colours and Genetics, 8 Replies

Holland lop kit color Author: skysthelimit
Forum: Rabbit Colours and Genetics, 11 Replies

What "actual" color is my New Zealand? Author: BunnyGirl
Forum: Random Rabbit Ramblings, 7 Replies

Question! What color is the bunny in my avatar? Author: BunnyGirl
Forum: Rabbit Colours and Genetics, 2 Replies

Color of this kit? Author: RabbitPhotoGirl
Forum: Rabbit Colours and Genetics, 8 Replies



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:


Copyright ©2009-2012 RabbitTalk.com
Website Created by MidnightCoder.ca