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Re: War on Rats

Post Number:#16  Unread postby akane » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:50 am


Snap traps commonly sold these days are so weak. I'm not even sure the ones I can buy in local stores physically hurts the mouse/rat. It sure isn't going to kill them. I had one drag a trap into another trap that it also got stuck in and then still kept going. I bought some stronger plastic traps online so they'd stop getting out of them before I found them but if you want a chance of actually killing a mouse/rat at all humanely in a snap trap you really have to go back to those basic old wooden traps that will leave your finger stinging for days. Otherwise the snap traps I could find aren't a huge difference from glue traps. They just limit or stop movement until you check the traps and dispatch the animal.
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Post Number:#17  Unread postby GregStreet » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:03 am


heritage wrote:Wow... I understand your opinion on the matter, but I think it can be handled with a bit more respect and kindness.

What have I said exactly that was disrespectful and mean? All I said was that it's not funny watching an animal suffering.

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Post Number:#18  Unread postby macksmom98 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:57 am


I just think that the person who posted that was not laughing about the animals suffering.....and I think that because I have followed her posts on here for close to a year. When you are on here often for a variety of questions and answers, you get to know people. This is a good place to be. And we all start to feel like we know each other, and how we run our operations and feel about things. I have never once got the impression that ladysown enjoys watching animals suffer. So all I would say is that if you don't have a good sense of where someone is coming from don't assume things. It's not justifying, it's simply understanding what was intended to come across. And we all know there are good humane ways for something to die, most people here do have conversations, even graphic ones at time, as to how to achieve that.

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Post Number:#19  Unread postby a7736100 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:27 pm


Where are the rats coming from? Are they just breeding in your property? If they are coming from some where else you're not going to get rid of them unless you remove what ever is attracting them.

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Post Number:#20  Unread postby Nika » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:41 pm


MaggieJ wrote:Not so long ago, a member posted an interesting idea. (Sorry, can't recall who posted and no time to go looking for it.) The idea was to house one or more guinea pigs in the rabbitry. Apparently rats hate, loathe and detest guinea pigs and will not hang out where they are


Yeah, it works for us every time. And just a few days ago I found two baby rats drowned in a rabbit drinking bowl, so here we go again :|

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Re: War on Rats

Post Number:#21  Unread postby ladysown » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:01 pm


just so you know... the trap was set, the rats grabbed the backend and were trying to pull it into their hole.

not laughing at a suffering animal.. just at their ingenuity. I am horrified that some of you would think I would do that. I guess I should have been more clear in my statement.

we don't laugh at suffering animals around here.. we fix them up or end their misery.

Just an update though...

1. some of the poison is being eaten
2. as smart as the rats are.. the games they play are catching up to them a bit... one's been tripping a trap and this morning finally got caught... Another I dispatched as I saw trying to trip another one (wasn't paying attention to me too intent on the trap)
3. pretty sure it was the possum that went after the rabbits as since it was caught more of my babies have come out of the box and even with rat poop around the cages, none of the babies have been hurt other than one nibbled toe....and that I might have missed from the possum.
4. the number of rats we see scurrying about is dramatically lessened.... not sure if it's the sulpher burning their feet so they take off, or that the poison set out is freaking them out, or if my traps are working, or what... I'm just happy not to have them running over my feet.

-- Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:01 pm --

Justify it all you like, but laughing at the suffering of an injured animal isn't right... infestation or no infestation.


I NEVER EVER said there was an animal IN the trap.. just that they were trying to pull a trap INTO their hole. Heavens... I'm just not happy with the assumption I would laugh at a helpless animal. I know that YOU don't know me.. but many on here do and should know enough by now to know I wouldn't NEVER do that.
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Post Number:#22  Unread postby FourRingCircus » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:38 pm


ladysown - don't let him get to you... it is obvious he trolls this site for only one reason (not entirely sure why RT???)
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Post Number:#23  Unread postby ladysown » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:13 pm


Where are the rats coming from? Are they just breeding in your property? If they are coming from some where else you're not going to get rid of them unless you remove what ever is attracting them.


Still working on this end of things.

I can't stop feeding the rabbits and my son's mice. We keep the feed as tidy and cleaned up as we can.. everything is stored in bins.

In the summer we don't feed the birds since they can feed themselves in the summer. I know I have a nest under the shed and some that move under the rabbit cages...but I don't think those ones are breeding.. think they are youngsters branching out.

Not sure what else is attracting them.... the compost only gets things the mice and rabbits won't eat (and their droppings). It's a battle we'll fight for a spell yet...but we'll get there yet. :)
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Re: War on Rats

Post Number:#24  Unread postby MaggieJ » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:27 pm


Ladysown, no reputable member of RT is going to think you or your family would find anything amusing about any animal suffering. You've been with us from the beginning and we know you better than to think that!

I thought that macsmom98 made that perfectly clear in her two posts--and I thanked her for them--but perhaps I should have posted about this myself.

Glad you're getting the critter situation under control! We had a rat in the mudroom (Jenny :catmoon: keeps them out of the house itself) but it got into a box of rat poison we had stored there . . . with predictable results.

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Post Number:#25  Unread postby a7736100 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:22 pm


When I had the problem I saw a lot of young rats but never saw any big ones. I think the older ones learned not to be seen while young ones would scramble from the bin feeders when they saw me. I used Tom Cat rat poison and was able to get rid of them. I figure it cost me around 50 cents per rat. I used to keep boxes of vegetables out in the yard which probably was what attracted rats in the first place.

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Post Number:#26  Unread postby macksmom98 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:13 pm


We got your back Ladysown! That poster has not even shown they belong on here really, never posted anything about rabbits. Seems to be an animal rights activist who is specific to rats and mice......don't let him get to you at all:)

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Post Number:#27  Unread postby Truckinguy » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:59 am


I've had good luck with the Victor rat snap traps (say that quickly three times!), the classic old style the same as a mouse trap but bigger, wooden back with metal snap parts. I think placement is important, I put one in my feed shed where they have to make their way around a stud in the wall and have caught more then a dozen in it since last summer. Unfortunately I have also caught chipmunks in it too but they shouldn't be in the feed shed anyway and sometimes you can't avoid collateral damage.

I know there are a lot of different kinds of mouse traps but I have had the best luck by far with the classic Victor traps, even the ones with the plastic slice of cheese work well. I've probably caught 30-40 mice in them in the last few years.

Of course, having the two mink around here has really cut down on the rat population but I don't recommend getting a mink... :o

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Post Number:#28  Unread postby ladysown » Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:29 pm


I have the wood snap traps as well.. they are much harder to set and kinda scare me but they are highly effective and when they get a rat, they get the rat properly.

The plastic black one we have sets really easily but I've learned it will get a foot or a tail about as often as it gets a proper head snap. Not sure why this is... it is also the trap they will try to pull into their nest.

I am learning where to place them.. between the mouse cages I have found works really really well. :) Still figuring out the best placement elsewhere... thinking of getting a three set and setting them around the bird feeders but then I'm afraid I'll be getting our squirrels.. not that I mind reducing the squirrel numbers but if it isn't a clean kill my son and hubby will be terribly upset....and it's hard to keep squirrels out of things as they can fit into the same space that a rat can.

I'm learning better where they run so am thinking of trying some glue traps again and placing them by the legs of my rabbit racks.. they like to dig holes beside them... Do you think that would work well???

it's definitely a learning experience.

For instance: I put sulphur down in front of the rabbit racks as that's where they were running out of. I placed it everywhere except around the bait stations. They no longer run out the front of the rabbit racks .... but have made tunnels under the rabbit rack legs and run out that way. which is why I am considering putting the glue traps there.

thank you all for helping me through this invasion.. it means much.
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Re: War on Rats

Post Number:#29  Unread postby bigfoot_158 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:35 pm


Might want to try a small dish of antifreeze. I here all animals love it. So be carefull because it will kill all animals wild life and pets. Just my 2 cents worth.
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