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Another color question

Post Number:#1  Unread postby Jasharia » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:31 am


I have a chocolate English angora buck he is out of a chocolate and a lilac point. Now for my first doe I might get a opal I am not sure what she is out of but I know there is a rew in there. Is it posible that I can get a pointed white? I know with chocolate both have to carry the color right? So could I get a black or blue pointed white? I am still trying to get a chocolate pointed white doe but have not found any yet.

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Re: Another color question

Post Number:#2  Unread postby Jack » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:31 pm


NO, I'm not good with modified agouti colors (points and chins)

BUT this I do know, REW is a masking color, and points are C (colored) C-chin-light but then you have other color modifiers to get opals etc.
Anywho, a REW is cc, so if it carries, a C-chin c(REW), and you breed to another carrier, you will get some REW not points, the points depend on the C-color being a C-chin light
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Re: Another color question

Post Number:#3  Unread postby Devon's Mom Lauren » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:12 pm


The opal would have to carry for pointed white for pointeds to show up in the first generation. Opal is a dilute agouti so anything could be hiding there.

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Re: Another color question

Post Number:#4  Unread postby Jack » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:02 pm


Ok, use google to check me
but here is my try

opal is A_B_dd_C, so a dilute black agouti (dilute agouti basically)
the point would have to be carried in the C c(chn L)

So if the rabbit is from a point, maybe, otherwise most likely no.

http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/angorarabb ... codes.html
http://www.debmark.com/rabbits/genetics.htm
http://www.mysticalmistminiatures.com/genetics.html

lastly written by Eric Stewart, ARBA director
http://www.arba.net/district/9/lop_color_genetics.htm

That should answer all your questions
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Re: Another color question

Post Number:#5  Unread postby Devon's Mom Lauren » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:18 pm


The Eric Stewart link is the one.. he knows his stuff inside and out :)

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Re: Another color question

Post Number:#6  Unread postby grinlow farm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:08 pm


when you talk about lilac point do you mean a Lilac pearl or a lilac pointed white?. I have pointed whites and I do not breed agouti patterns to the pointeds. The agouti will show up in the points which is a DQ on the show table.

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Re: Another color question

Post Number:#7  Unread postby Jasharia » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:27 pm


See that is what I need to know He is chocolate and his mom is a pointed white and his dad is chocolate. So I sould not even get this doe right? I don't want to mess up the color.

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Re: Another color question

Post Number:#8  Unread postby grinlow farm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:58 pm


He can throw pointed whites. I would breed him to a solid doe. If you are in love with the opal just realize some of the offspring could be pointed agouti. There could be alot of other colors. When I pair my agouti buck and pointed doe in Evans Software I get 12% unrecognized color which is prob. pointed agouti, that means each bunny has 12% chance of being unrecognized color. Your pointed is a generation removed so that number is prob decreased. I love my english agouti angora rabbits but I keep them away from my pointed line.

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