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    what is this colour/pattern?

    FWIW my money is on this being a temporary pattern due to moulting into silvering. If this is harlequin based it is a very dark pattern overall combined with a large light area with no visible brindling and a mismatched leg. I think that is a rather unlikely combination. In principle, mosaic...
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    What is going on here?

    The forum post that convinced me is here (beware the auto translation and the use of "european" symbology, which uses B for MC1R). I've never found access to the underlying papers though. Note that there is nothing particularly special about C (aka TYR) that makes its mutations temperature...
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    What is going on here?

    IMO the dark nose mark has to be due to torting, which is also temperature sensitive. i.e. this rabbit is aaeje. While cchl is indeed temperature sensitive it shouldn't be able to turn magpie-white areas dark or create a symmetric marking where there wasn't one before. Torting on the other...
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    Color ID request

    I think this is just the normal evolution of a (probably single-maned) agouti lionhead. The mane (and skirt) of a maned agouti is black, and as your bun has aged it is losing some of the dark mane-related hairs (especially the skirt hairs on the flanks), revealing the normal agouti pattern...
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    champagne d'argent and white Flemish

    You can expect the crosses to silver up, but not as much as the champagne. They should have a lot less silver, and the visual contrast between the silver and agouti is less than that between silver and self black.
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    Genotypes and Kit Colors

    From what I read, seal is almost always cchlcchl, but very occasionally people report a seal throwing rew. I attribute this to the cchm allele described in Robinson, but it could be something else (eg misidentification, or modifiers affecting cchl). Also, there's a 50/50 chance that doe #2 is...
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    Doe building nest 4 weeks before due date

    The "beige" looks like a broken tort to me. The sire looks like a broken black otter and the runt looks like the same. The fat kit in the red bucket looks like charlie black otter. Dam looks like some kind of broken agouti. If I'm right about all those you seem to have an interesting mix...
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    To all Rabbits breeders Show and Meat

    IMO routinely feeding antibiotics to healthy livestock is a bad thing. It has likely been a major contributor to the appearance of antibiotic resistant bacteria. New scientist 23 March 2015 New York Times 27 Jan 2014
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    Trying to decide the color

    This might be a dumb idea but perhaps there is some silvering going on here? Zooming in on the 2nd pic in particular I see white hairs on a black background, but no clearly black-tipped hairs. Does parting the hair show the ring pattern? Against this idea is that the breeder would know and...
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    Trying to decide the color

    I think the picture quality is good. It looks like it was taken with natural light through the car sunroof. The whites look white and the hay looks hay-coloured. The blue tray doesn't seem to be distorting the colours much either. I'm undecided between squirrel and sable chin. IMO the...
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    Would love some colour help! :D

    I think Dood's post is mixing dog and rabbit terminology. Dog sable (symbol Ay on the website I found), is an allele* of the dog agouti gene. It has similar effects to the rabbit agouti allele (symbol A) of the rabbit agouti gene. For example, both help generate eye circles. This doesn't...
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    Mini Rex - what colors can have blue eyes ?

    Anything that gives a ruby cast to normal eyes would give blue eyes an "off" tint. So chocolate or shaded could do it.
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    New rabbit, what color am I?

    I think this rabbit looks like A_B_cchl_D_E_, with white feet.
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    Wondering about colors of these baby lionheads

    A couple of pics of maned chestnuts on the rabbitcolors site. So I also think the buck is chestnut. I think the mane creates extra shading that looks like tort-otter but isn't. So for the record, my kit guesses are: #4 chinchilla #3 orange #2 chinchilla version of #3 (so ermine?) #1 don't know
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    Blue chin or smoke pearl? Confused..

    Some genetics texts (eg Robinson*) describe an additional c allele cchm in between cchd and cchl such that cchmc looks similar to seal (which would normally be cchlcchl). Might be worth considering if cchlc still seems unlikely when the kit is older. I had also got the impression from forums...
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    Will my rabbit get a falt for his coloring?

    The gray belly does sound steel-related. Here is a picture of a steeled otter on the rabbitcolors site showing a gray belly on a black rabbit. Click the thumbnail for full-size/more pics.
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    What colors?

    I see: Too dark and blurry to tell Chestnut (or maybe gold-tipped steel) Broken chestnut
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    Genetics are confusing !

    I feel I should apologise for overcomplicating things, particularly when I unnecessarily brought up probabilities. I should have known that that wouldn't help.
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    Test breeding Silver Fox herd

    Of course. The short version is that if there is linkage between En spotting and silver (or they are alleles of the same gene) then ignoring the spotted offspring in the final generation also preferentially ignores rabbits with "not silvering" genes. If there is a silvering allele at KIT then...
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    Genetics are confusing !

    I would interpret E_ as ruling out Es (if Es were possible but not certain I would expect to see either ?? or perhaps ?E). Under this interpretation, my statement is correct. But perhaps this interpretation is strange? I don't understand why you mention buck and doe (in particular, the "x" in...
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