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Color help....Please.

Post Number:#1  Unread postby bunny love » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:02 pm


Hi everyone. I haven't posted in a while and I'm still trying to figure out what these babies colors are. Now that they are 10 weeks old I was wondering if someone could maybe help me. I still can't successfully post pics. so I thought maybe if I could describe them someone may have an idea. I'm planning on selling them soon and would like to have an idea on the colors. One of the babies is for sure chinchilla grey with black tips. One is for sure opal as it is dove grey with the classic tan triangle at the nap of the neck. There are 3 others though that look opal but they have white at the nap of the neck instead of tan. What color would those be? There is one that is super light grey no other color. Not sure on that one. Then there is a super weird one. It looks chestnut agouti on top, chinchilla on the sides, 4 tan feet, they almost appear white, and a patch of scattered white hairs between the eyes and nose, tan muzzle, dark ear lacing, brown eyes :? . All of the other babies have blue eyes, except the chinchilla. The mom is chestnut agouti. The dad is solid blue, but he has 2 strips of white on one ear. I think he is Vienna marked because I had a kit recently that was white with blue eyes, but it was starting to get dark points when it died at 2 weeks old. so I'm not sure if that means it was Vienna marked or if pointed naturally have blue eyes? I would truly appreciate any ideas. Thanks!

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Re: Color help....Please.

Post Number:#2  Unread postby SableSteel » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:49 am


The one that look opal but have white instead are probably either squirrels (the chinchinchilla version of opal, where all orange pigment is replaced by white) or snowballed opals (where the undercolor over the whole body is white). The last one sounds like a vienna marked chestnut; they can get heavy countershading on the sides. You can upload pictures to imgur.com and put the urls here too.
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Re: Color help....Please.

Post Number:#3  Unread postby Nymphadora » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:50 am


:yeahthat:

Yup, photos would be best so we can try to be accurate. I'd especially like to see the potential squirrels, I think it's such a cool color! :oops:

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Post Number:#4  Unread postby Shea » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:01 pm


I can walk you through how to post from your phone if that helps? You do need to resize the images to fit but there is a nifty sitehttp://resizeimage.net/ Just upload and change the largest pixel number to 1000 and drop to normal compression. Download the image to your device then when you go to post scroll down under save draft to upload attachment, click on browse then your image should be in your download file, then add file. And Bobs your uncle!

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Post Number:#5  Unread postby bunny love » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:30 pm


This is the wierd one. :?

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This is one of the opal colored with the white on the back of the neck, not a very good picture though. It only shows on the top of the ears. I'll get a better picture tomarrow. Thank you Shea for walking me through the picture posting.

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This is the lighter baby.

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Opal.
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Post Number:#6  Unread postby Shea » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:59 am


The bottom picture looks like a rusty chinchilla to me. I get them quite often in my litters.

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Post Number:#7  Unread postby bunny love » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:31 pm


Would you consider the rusty chinchilla Vienna marked?

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Here is a picture of the opal with the white.
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Post Number:#8  Unread postby Shea » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:21 am


I have no experience with the vienna gene so I cant comment, but I dont see any obvious white marks. And that one to me looks more like a squirrel then an opal.

Here is a pic of one of my rusty chins, the shading is supposed to molt out as they age.
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Post Number:#9  Unread postby bunny love » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:47 am


Wow! That's cool. We shall see if this one molts out. I'm keeping it as it's a doe and I'm working on a 4 generation pedigree. These babies are my first generation.

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Post Number:#10  Unread postby Dood » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:57 pm


Looks like a Sable chinchilla /sable agouti, which often have more brown tones than true chinchilla

And in most of the photos it looks blue based sable chin, often called " squirrel"

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