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12 In her first litter!

Addressing the special needs of the breeding doe and her kits. Includes nutrition, gestation, nest boxes and materials, and tips to ensure survival of the young.
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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#16  Unread postby Shea » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:06 pm


I was mostly just guestimating and trying not to have all my eggs in one basket. But I had read somewhere, someone using a full 5-6" sprig daily to counteract overproduction. So as my best guess I gave her a 2" top of mint one day, skipped a day then another the next. Amd it worked. Wether it helped or not im not sure but it didn't hurt. I may have to start her back up on it though, she was looking awefully full on that side at dinner time, but she may not have nursed yet.

The kits were all slip sliding that day. :D I could hardly hang on to them! They have all poofed up though in the last day or so and if it hadn't been freezing rain or out right raining for the last 2 days I would have brought them in for more pics. They have just started peeking heads out of the nest boxes!


. . . I may have had a bannana as a late night snack last night and walked the peel right out to them. . :roll:

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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#17  Unread postby Nymphadora » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:50 am


Shea wrote:. . . I may have had a bannana as a late night snack last night and walked the peel right out to them. . :roll:

Bwahaha! They've got you, hook, line, and sinker! :lol:

It must be hard to resist temptation around such little cuties... I don't blame you! :oops:

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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#18  Unread postby Shea » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:24 am


All is well! The littles are starting to pop out of the nestbox and they are just soo fluffy at the 3 week mark. :bunnyhop:
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Their momma is going to go spar trying to corrall all 12 of them. :D

I have a few questionable colors out of these litters. I can't tell if they are chestnuts or Chins or some other gene factoring in that I don't know about. Any ideas?
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Same popple
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And I couldn't help myself this little ball of cuteness needed to be shared. :D
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Nooo I don't want my picture taken!
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Cute little squirrel!

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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#19  Unread postby Nymphadora » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:57 am


Personally I'd say that funky-colored kit is a regular chestnut (some of mine have the same pale "racing stripes" along the sides yours has). But the white around the eye has me second-guessing a little.

I can't believe how shiny they look, even though they're obviously little fluff-balls. :oops:

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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#20  Unread postby Shea » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:38 pm


I should get a better picture of their eye color. They are not brown, but a kinda bluish brown/gray?

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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#21  Unread postby Nymphadora » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:48 pm


Shea wrote:I should get a better picture of their eye color. They are not brown, but a kinda bluish brown/gray?

See, that sounds like maybe dilute? But I can't remember if my castor babies didn't have slightly lighter eyes when they were babies... they're normal brown by now (~12 weeks).

The color of the fur definitely looks chestnut to me, but I don't really have any experience with chins... it looks like too much color for brassy-ness, though. :?

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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#22  Unread postby guardianoasis » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:33 pm


HAHAHA YAY SATINS! They are my diamonds. Literally bought some instead of a diamond ring for my wedding, no joke.

The brown on your chins is what most people who deal with american chinchillas call "rust" It usually sheds out with the first molt from baby fuzz to jr coat. It's not supposed to be there and I've spent the past couple years trying to figure out what gene causes it. Recently I decided to cross my american chinchilla buck with a doe that carries chocolate and ended up with a chocolate chinchilla kit which I wasn't expecting. Which means I might be onto something with this rust thing finally after forever.
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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#23  Unread postby Shea » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:16 pm


That is what I was thinking. But the "chestnut" color is very distinctive on some of the kits. Almost like they are 2tone. :shock: Of course those are the ones I can't get a picture of. :roll:

But here is a better picture with eye color and then one with a true chestnut and another rusty one.
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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#24  Unread postby guardianoasis » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:36 pm


So I don't know if you plan to get into showing but chestnut in Satins is called Copper.... just an fyi for the future if you ever get there.

If you can see the intermediate ring that's what I'd look at. If all the kits have an ivory intermediate ring I'd say they are all chin and that's one VERY brassy chin.... Coppers have the more orange intermediate ring.
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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#25  Unread postby Nymphadora » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:39 pm


Shea wrote:But here is a better picture with eye color and then one with a true chestnut and another rusty one.

:shock:
That looks so... weird! The chestnut/rust color seems so at odds with the light eyes! :x :lol:

Thank you, guardianoasis, for sharing the info about rusty chins. :)

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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#26  Unread postby guardianoasis » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 pm


You're welcome. It's a common but irritating and unwanted problem in a lot of lines of chins. It's why most people only breed chin to chin when doing show rabbits. Right now I have a couple theories but I'm sitting on my thumbs waiting for kits. My buck who threw what I suspect is a chocolate chin (if you wanna see it's under my self chin thread in the genetic forum) bred a doe of a friend who had quite a few rusty chins. The buck is getting old. I doubt he's going to be with us much longer but I'm supposed to get a buck from this rusty litter and I'm going to try to find a really rusty one to test him out and see what the heck is up with hit.
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Re: 12 In her first litter!

Post Number:#27  Unread postby Shea » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:31 pm


Copper is a Very apt way to describe the color on the chestnut kits. They are gorgeous!
No I was not planning on showing, I got satins more for the meat and the very lovely pelts! I should probably mark the Chinchilla kits that Don't show any rust then? There are 1 or 2 with no rust on them.

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