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White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#1  Unread postby TeaTimeBunnies » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:47 am


So I have a REW doe who gave me 5 kits. 4 are broken black like their sire, but the 5th is a white rabbit like my doe. Now their eyes are just opening and the white kit I expected to be a REW like it's mama has black pupils (all I can see are the pupils at this moment) now I'm wondering what color it's eyes are. I personally haven't seen any white rabbits with brown eyes, but I'm sure that it is still a possible color. The sire of these kits has brown eyes, but I don't have any idea what genes either of the parents carry other than what shows on them. My question is how likely is it that I have a white kit with brown eyes vs. blue eyes? And a bit of a genetics lesson would help me out a lot with trying to wrap my head around this

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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#2  Unread postby Ozarkansas » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:04 am


It looks like either a Blue Eyed White, or a "Brown Eyed White." We used to have meat mutts that threw "Brown Eyed Whites" we only got 2 though. They were in 2 different litters 5 months apart. And they both died for no apparent reason at about 4 weeks. :(
If it is Blue Eyed White you will see blue in a few days.

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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#3  Unread postby SableSteel » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:55 pm


White with brown eyes (ermines) are pretty common. Much more common than any blue eyed whites (at least in meat breeds; in some pet lines theres a bunch of blue eyes floating around). They're orange with the chinchilla gene, that takes away all the orange pigment. What breed is this?
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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#4  Unread postby Ozarkansas » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:04 pm


SableSteel wrote:White with brown eyes (ermines) are pretty common. Much more common than any blue eyed whites (at least in meat breeds; in some pet lines theres a bunch of blue eyes floating around). They're orange with the chinchilla gene, that takes away all the orange pigment. What breed is this?


I didn't know that ermines are pure white. I thought they had faint shading.
Are they genetically weak?
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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#5  Unread postby TeaTimeBunnies » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:08 pm


This a simple lop mutt. I don't know what breeds are in it, I just know that the parents are mixed lops

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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#6  Unread postby Dood » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:57 pm


Frosty AKA ermine are white with brown or grey eyes, they usually developed coloured ticking as they mature

It is odd that you got 5 broken blacks out of them as you'd expect a few chestnuts :hmm: could you post a picture of the sire and the black kits, I suspect they might be steels

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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#7  Unread postby TeaTimeBunnies » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:52 am


Here are those pictures. The doe is the REW

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So their eye color is starting to come in. It's faint right now, but after my art class I learned that I am quite sensitive to color and see more colors, more vividly than most people. The white Kit's eyes look kinda steely blue right now
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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#8  Unread postby Ozarkansas » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:27 am


My Palomino kit's eyes look kinda blue when they first open them. But they are very brown at about 6 weeks.
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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#9  Unread postby faiththequeen » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:39 pm


I could be totally wrong, but at the least kit #3 looks like a steel. Hard to tell. My guess would be the above comment was right about a frosty/ermine ;) Adorable babies!
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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#10  Unread postby TeaTimeBunnies » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:01 pm


How do you tell if they are steel? They have some decently long fuzz, so the white blends into the black quite a bit

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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#11  Unread postby faiththequeen » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:03 pm


TeaTimeBunnies wrote:How do you tell if they are steel? They have some decently long fuzz, so the white blends into the black quite a bit


The black on that one looks like it's getting "tipped" to me. But you're looking at it in person, not me, so you would know better :)
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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#12  Unread postby Ozarkansas » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:28 pm


Steel is black hairs "Tipped" with either gold or silver. In lops there can be other varieties of steel as well, such as Blue, Chocolate, Lilac, Sable, and Smoke Pearl. :D

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It just looks like the black and white hairs are blending to me :bunnyhop:
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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#13  Unread postby KimitsuKouseki » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:27 am


Ozarkansas wrote:Steel is black hairs "Tipped" with either gold or silver. In lops there can be other varieties of steel as well, such as Blue, Chocolate, Lilac, Sable, and Smoke Pearl. :D

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It just looks like the black and white hairs are blending to me :bunnyhop:

I feel the same, they all just look broken black to me.
My guess is you can just assume until proven otherwise that your doe doesnt carry agouti. A REW doe, it's hard to tell what her "true" color is cause of the albino covering the color genes, but you would have had 50% chestnut if she carried agouti. Since your sire is a self, any agouti wouldve been caused by the mom.
Also because of the sire most your kits will always be black based colors since black is such a powerfull color. If you have a different buck, who's not black based, I'd use him to test what color your doe carries.

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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#14  Unread postby TeaTimeBunnies » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:34 am


I have a gold English Spot buck I could try to test her with next. If I remember correctly "gold" English Spots are red based. I don't know if she'll lift for him though, because she is bonded with my lop buck

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Re: White rabbit eyes

Post Number:#15  Unread postby KimitsuKouseki » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:03 am


It's worth a shot, I'd try him with her, see how it goes. If she attacks him take him out, but my guess is it should be fine.

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