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**Update** Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#1  Unread postby Chelw114 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:53 pm


These are Holland Lop kits. The tort and broken tort are from another litter. The remaining 5 are out of a Smoke Pearl Buck carrying REW and a sable point doe.

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Re: Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#2  Unread postby SableSteel » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:02 am


I'd guess 3 sable points, 2 rews
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Re: Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#3  Unread postby Chelw114 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:30 pm


Well they still haven't opened they're eyes yet but at 11 days old it's only a matter of time. I'm debating between a sable point and a smoke pearl or 2 sable points. Come on little kits, open those eyes!

Here are the 2 in question.

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Re: **Update** Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#4  Unread postby ladysown » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:46 pm


small one a sable point...the other looks like a sable marked chin.
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Re: **Update** Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#5  Unread postby SableSteel » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:20 am


It can't be sable chin, it has solid colored ears. it's either sable or sable point. I'm still leaning towards sable point (just a darker shade) with it.
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Re: **Update** Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#6  Unread postby Chelw114 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:18 pm


I'm keeping my fingers crossed for either a Siamese sable or smoke pearl. When does it become more obvious what they are?

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Re: **Update** Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#7  Unread postby SableSteel » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:56 pm


It gets easier to tell the older they get. Siamese sables don't really have any shading as babies (this age) - more of a dark gray/born undercoat with some lighter frosted tips (is what they look like - but sables are born with dark skin, and sable points are born with pink/light skin). I bred sable & sable point Hollands (and shaded dwarfs), and almost always when a kit had dark gray shading like this, I turned out to be a sable point (usually not carrying rew). In Hollands, some sable points are caused by the cchd gene (so they'd technically be sallanders, but sable point is recognized, so everybody calls them that), which makes it even more common to see dark sable points in Hollands. I'm attaching a picture of a baby Siamese sable & smoke pearl for comparison (smoke pearl on bottom)
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Re: **Update** Anyone want to take a guess at these colors?

Post Number:#8  Unread postby Chelw114 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:43 am


SableSteel wrote:It gets easier to tell the older they get. Siamese sables don't really have any shading as babies (this age) - more of a dark gray/born undercoat with some lighter frosted tips (is what they look like - but sables are born with dark skin, and sable points are born with pink/light skin). I bred sable & sable point Hollands (and shaded dwarfs), and almost always when a kit had dark gray shading like this, I turned out to be a sable point (usually not carrying rew). In Hollands, some sable points are caused by the cchd gene (so they'd technically be sallanders, but sable point is recognized, so everybody calls them that), which makes it even more common to see dark sable points in Hollands. I'm attaching a picture of a baby Siamese sable & smoke pearl for comparison (smoke pearl on bottom)


Thank you! That makes things clearer. Hopefully I'll get better and more confident at determining color earlier as I have more litters.

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