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Black or seal?

Post Number:#1  Unread postby MR_ND » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:50 pm


This forum has been very helpful to me, I always thought my 'black' buck was black with crappy coat coloring, now I am wondering if he is a seal. Because he always has a sun bleached color to his coat even though he isn't in the sun. His mom was a broken black and his father was what I thought was a black but he might've been a seal. His coat coloring underneath is a slate grey kind of color. The picture of the blue buck is his son Shade, Shade's mom was a blue. I sold all the black/seal babies so I can't compare him to them.

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Re: Black or seal?

Post Number:#2  Unread postby Dood » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:38 pm


I'd say he's seal

Do you have any white (REW or himilayan) to breed him to?

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Re: Black or seal?

Post Number:#3  Unread postby MR_ND » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:34 pm


Dood wrote:I'd say he's seal

Do you have any white (REW or himilayan) to breed him to?


I don;t have any REW or Himlayan rabbits. Right now my only other rabbit is Shade his blue son and my sister in law who bought him is supposed to get him once she gets her pen built for him. Then in about a month I'm going to be getting some more rabbits but they'll all probably be Siamese sable ND.

If I did acquire a REW or Himalayan how would I go about it to find out his color?

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Re: Black or seal?

Post Number:#4  Unread postby Dood » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:39 pm


If he's seal they will all be shaded or Chinchila

If he's black you'll get black or chestnuts

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Re: Black or seal?

Post Number:#5  Unread postby MR_ND » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:58 pm


Oh no, now I'm started on a hunt for a REW doe. lol


Would a doe with grey eyes work http://kansascity.craigslist.org/grd/4432413235.html?
What about a BEW doe?


I'm new to all this genetic, I just got into rabbits a year ago when a friend's brother was selling his rabbits so I went down and picked out a rabbit, then we got a male and he got with the female so yeah.
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Re: Black or seal?

Post Number:#6  Unread postby akane » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:58 pm


Sables are carrying himi or rew. Usually himi is used to make a sable. Breed sable x sable and you will get 25% seal, 50% sable, and 25% himi (possibly rew if that was used in place of himi in the lines). You can also cross seal to a known sable and you will get 50% seal, 50% sable. Sometimes though it's hard to tell a dark sable from a light seal so if you aren't having big litters it may be difficult to prove it's a seal using that breeding.
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Re: Black or seal?

Post Number:#7  Unread postby MR_ND » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:09 pm


Okay. I know his Mom's sister was a REW and his grandma was a broken black and his mom was a broken black. His father was a seal or black.
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Re: Black or seal?

Post Number:#8  Unread postby Dood » Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:30 am


He could still be a seal or dark sable, only test breeding to a REW of himi will tell

BEW is a completely different gene so don't breed to it.

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