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Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#1  Unread postby SarniaTricia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:04 am


I am really seriously considering breeding Magpie Harlequin......
I have the standards book... checked this site.... started reaching out to folks with Harlequins.....

I still have tones of questions!!!
Do I cull all the kits with smutty coats? (smutty=no defining black/white.. kinda more grey/black)
Should I be looking to keep all the kits with good face divisions?

I would love if anyone with experience with this breed could give me tips on what to look for... I am shopping for a new buck.

Thanks

(I will post some photos of the kits I have to work with later today, tomorrow, or some time this week....lol)

__________ Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:04 am __________

Here is the doe and buck I got to start the ball rolling....
DOE: Ester
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BUCK: Blaze
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The first litter:
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Only three of these kits made it.... lost the centre to heat and the top left to feed change last week.... they are currently 5 months.
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Re: Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#2  Unread postby SixGun » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:53 am


I have previously raised this breed. Both Japanese and Magpie. I found that good face division is a difficult characteristic to keep, so yes, definitely always keep that high on the list of keeping breeders. Color and pattern is everything in this breed, so only keep something that is better than a parent, IMO. In the 10 litters or so I raised, so approx. 70 kits, I never had one meet my standards to keep, and I had relatively good stock to begin with. I had to leave them abruptly and miss them. I strongly considered raising them again this time around. I loved raising them before, and they fit my needs really well as I fed raw to 7 dogs and I always had culls. They've got a good grow out rate and never had a personality problem.
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Re: Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#3  Unread postby SableSteel » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:38 pm


You shouldn't keep the brindled ones for breeding unless it is really good otherwise, in my opinion

While the face split ones are nice for showing, you can also keep ones without facesplits for breeding if they have well defined markings and good type
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Re: Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#4  Unread postby SarniaTricia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:06 pm


I can't wait to get them all to a show and meet some experienced breeders to get feedback from!!!

Thank you!

I have 2 or 3 kits with great face division!
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Re: Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#5  Unread postby Zass » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:03 pm


Looks like good starter stock to me. :)

Preferably, I only want to save those kits that I'd be willing to take to a show.

I routinely get 9-10 finished fryers/litter from mine, so there has been no shortage of kits to sift though.

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Re: Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#6  Unread postby SarniaTricia » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:40 pm


I've managed to touch base with one Harlequin breeder that will be at the show this weekend..... She only works with Japanese (spelling?) But I really want to pick her brains for suggestions.

Thanks again everyone!

__________ Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:22 pm __________

Just a few photos of my current stock of Magpie Harlequin:

New Buck:
I will see what he throws in the next litter and decide if he stays or goes...
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Kiki:
BOG winner at Show A & B MSU show in Nov 2106
She won't be old enough to breed for another month -two months....
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Dolly:
Great temperament Doe with nice crisp lines
She is from the same litter as Kiki and Gigi
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Sheri:
This doe is from my meat rabbits....
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Fiona:
Just bread today to Chester Bailey
She is a nosey girl and very hard to photograph
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Gigi, Kiki and Fiona at the MSU show in November 2016:
These three does are full sisters

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Ester is my foundation doe:
She's a bit small and fine boned, but she threw Kiki and Gigi.... so she can't be all that bad. :lol:
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Re: Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#7  Unread postby Zass » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:02 am


Oh nice bunnies!! Especially Kiki <3 I just trimmed my herd down to only two brood does, and one buck. I know I should be selecting for markings, but somehow, temper always seems to win me over. At least they seems to be putting on some size. Harlequins can be very slow to reach their full weight.
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Re: Harlequin (the breed) specifically Magpie

Post Number:#8  Unread postby SarniaTricia » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:28 am


Zass
Temperament is so important to me.... a brood doe with bad attitude will last a couple of litters if she throws kits I want.... but, she is only making her replacement!

I really like the breed in general.... My meat rabbits I select breeding partners to get pelt colours and patterns, so Harlequins just seemed like the logical next step....lol

Your rabbits look healthy and happy!
(I'm hoping to do a colony pen some day)
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