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Growing season length, and average temperatures.

Post Number:#1  Unread postby michaels4gardens » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:50 pm


Growing season length, and average temperatures.
Although there is "theoretical evidence" to suggest we are moving into "cooler" temperatures,[and shorter growing season] at this point i don't see that backed up by any "real stats".
The discussion on "global warming" ,has become so "political" ,and "agenda orientated" , the information available is unreliable.
The information i see, shows a lengthening of the growing season, [and warmer average temperatures].
I am researching and experimenting with,..high calorie [250 to 500 calories / lb] food plants, that like warmer weather. [Irish potato has "about"347 calories/ lb]
So far, ...
the taro [colocasia esculenta] likes tennessee,and is very productive,and the corms overwintered under a thick mulch.[Taro corms -508 calories / lb]
The taro leaves are a nutrient rich food also. [see link below]
Most taro leaf ,has a long cook time, before it is edible ,IE non irritating to mouth and throat" don't eat taro leaf raw
the Chinese wild yam [dioscorea polystachya]
"about" 450 calories/ lb] 1/2 cup (100 grams), baked with skin: 116 calories, 0 grams fat, 27 grams carbohydrate, 4 grams fibre, 1.5 grams protein, 670 mg potassium, 12 milligrams vitamin C, 0.23 milligrams vitamin B6, .07 milligrams beta-carotene.
Is a weed here, and is very productive. [it is an 'introduced invasive" that was already growing in the yard] This variety seems to have adapted to colder conditions . In my experiments, the "seed" [aerial tubercles] will still grow after being frozen for a month.[an amazing adaptation for this variety]
The Yam, dioscorea rotundata winter killed.
The yam, dioscorea alata winter killed.
Turmeric has over wintered and is productive.[only has 180 calories / lb]
xanthosoma violaceum, is growing very well, i have not tried to "overwinter" it outdoors yet, I now have enough of it to give that a try. [The main value of this plant is for high nutrition ,extremely palatable, steamed, or canned greens]
So far, none of these plants seem to have disease, or insect problems.
Although,... there has been talk by "government agencies" ,of introducing insect pests to attack yam plants. At this point, i don't think this "act of stupidity" has occurred.
The "yam" is a major food plant, that has very few pests in North America.
https://www.thecoconet.tv/coco-talanoa/ ... ro-leaves/

This figure shows the length of the growing season in the contiguous 48 states compared with a long-term average. For each year, the line represents the number of days shorter or longer than average. The line was smoothed using an 11-year moving average. Choosing a different long-term average for comparison would not change the shape of the data over time.
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Re: Growing season length, and average temperatures.

Post Number:#2  Unread postby GBov » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:23 am


You are right, the entire topic has become so political that it verges upon the insane but I think you are right in your gardening, it is becoming hotter over all and the growing season seems to be longer.

After all, people are now planting olives in the UK which would not have lived not that many years ago.

Looking forward to getting my hands in the dirt soon so shall see how things grow over here now, it is a long time since I have gardened at this latitude.

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Post Number:#3  Unread postby ScarletAcres » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:57 am


I can't wait to start gardening myself next year. I want to get a small one going with a lot of the Guinea pig favorites and a few beneficial things for the buns.

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Re: Growing season length, and average temperatures.

Post Number:#4  Unread postby hotzcatz » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:15 pm


taro leaf (called 'luau leaf' around here) is excellent for laulau. Take some chunks of cubed pork, about half a handful of 1" cubes, add a little bit of fatty fish, wrap them with several taro leaves, then wrap with ti leaf (cordyline terminalis) and then tie them up with string. Steam them in an underground oven if you happen to have one, otherwise steam with a bit of smoke seasoning in the steam. Not sure how long outside of an imu (underground oven) since usually we use an imu. Totally tasty!
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Post Number:#5  Unread postby michaels4gardens » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:59 pm


hotzcatz wrote:taro leaf (called 'luau leaf' around here) is excellent for laulau. Take some chunks of cubed pork, about half a handful of 1" cubes, add a little bit of fatty fish, wrap them with several taro leaves, then wrap with ti leaf (cordyline terminalis) and then tie them up with string. Steam them in an underground oven if you happen to have one, otherwise steam with a bit of smoke seasoning in the steam. Not sure how long outside of an imu (underground oven) since usually we use an imu. Totally tasty!


I use banana leaves, and my pressure cooker @ 20 lbs ... cook time depends on the variety, Some leaves lose the itch at 30 minutes, other varieties need 2 1/2 hours. Some varieties are moist and tender, some have a dryer ,tougher texture... [we like moist and tender]..
I like Xanthosoma violaceum leaves, they are great just steamed for a few minutes... with a little butter, it is our family favorite .
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Post Number:#6  Unread postby hotzcatz » Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:04 pm


Banana leaves around laulau might be interesting! Usually those are used wrapped around a sticky rice treat, I forget the name. It's a Filipino recipe, I think. Ti leaves don't have as much flavor as banana leaves, but they both get used in cooking. And fed to bunnies, too! Bunnies prefer ti leaves to banana leaves, but they will eat some banana leaf.

Bananas and taro grow in Tennessee? That isn't usually a place one thinks of when considering bananas and taro. Have you tried bamboo? Some varieties of bamboo are really tasty and much more aromatic when cooked fresh than the canned varieties.
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Re: Growing season length, and average temperatures.

Post Number:#7  Unread postby michaels4gardens » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:01 pm


hotzcatz wrote:Banana leaves around laulau might be interesting! Usually those are used wrapped around a sticky rice treat, I forget the name. It's a Filipino recipe, I think. Ti leaves don't have as much flavor as banana leaves, but they both get used in cooking. And fed to bunnies, too! Bunnies prefer ti leaves to banana leaves, but they will eat some banana leaf.

Bananas and taro grow in Tennessee? That isn't usually a place one thinks of when considering bananas and taro. Have you tried bamboo? Some varieties of bamboo are really tasty and much more aromatic when cooked fresh than the canned varieties.


My taro varieties are doing very well, the bananas are "non fruiting", but make good wrappers...
I have not tried any bamboo varieties since moving here, - but.. when i once lived 50 miles south of here, Yellow Grove Bamboo, grew very well in that area ... not the best, - but still yummy...- and great crop support material....
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