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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#16  Unread postby skysthelimit » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:03 pm


tm_bunnyloft wrote:I used to feed flax to my horses and did very well in Halter and showmanship classes. Maybe I'll give it a try as well. Can't hurt since I'm not getting any live litters these days.

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I just read elsewhere that it does help with wool block, increases fertility and productivity as well. I am going to put my woolys on it asap.



nice, I was just thinking what I would do about the wool block.
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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#17  Unread postby Mary Ann's Rabbitry » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:43 pm


that is great guys. I noticed it with that doe i do have when the other breeder couldnt get any live babies. I know it isnt all from the flax , but some of it is. It also helps with bring in there milk... there is nothing bad about it so far as long you dont give to much. Everything in moderation. Dry does and buck give a pinch and pregnant does and working bucks and kits give more,.. You have to give everyday to see results.

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#18  Unread postby tm_bunnyloft » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:29 pm


If you give the flax seed, It is said to clean the food and such off the wool ball in the gut, due to its slippery water soluble makeup. And so with all the food cleaned off the hair ball, then when you feed Timothy (specifically timothy) hay it then pulls hair from the ball in smaller pieces to be passed. They say that alfalfa just sticks more to the hay ball so not to feed woolies alfalfa hay. I would think if you use it as a maintenance you would no longer have to worry about wool block in a wooly herd.

Here is a link to where I found the information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rabbit_breeds

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#19  Unread postby skysthelimit » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:58 pm


tm_bunnyloft wrote:If you give the flax seed, It is said to clean the food and such off the wool ball in the gut, due to its slippery water soluble makeup. And so with all the food cleaned off the hair ball, then when you feed Timothy (specifically timothy) hay it then pulls hair from the ball in smaller pieces to be passed. They say that alfalfa just sticks more to the hay ball so not to feed woolies alfalfa hay. I would think if you use it as a maintenance you would no longer have to worry about wool block in a wooly herd.

Here is a link to where I found the information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rabbit_breeds



Now that might be problematic, since I can't get anything but alfalfa blend hay. At this point, I can barely get hay.
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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#20  Unread postby tm_bunnyloft » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:14 pm


There are other things to give for wool block too besides hay.

This is the link I meant to post.....Allot of good info on wool block.
http://www.fuzzylop.com/News_Winter_09_wool_block.htm

Try these things: Pineapple juice (fresh ), Fresh pineapple, papaya fresh, and banana with the peel on.

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#21  Unread postby skysthelimit » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:19 pm


I can get canned pineapple, and canned pineapple juice, not going to get anything fresh this time of year. I can get dried papaya. Banana is probably the easiest.
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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#22  Unread postby tm_bunnyloft » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:21 pm


I would think since the theory is that you want to make the hair ball free of sticky food and so the rabbit can pass a little at a time, I would use the flax seed as a maintenence supplement to the feed. That should keep wool block from occurring in the first place. And when they are blowing coat I would feed a bit of banana, Papaya, or pineapple a couple of times a week just to be on the safe side. I think the flax seed may be enough in itself. I am going to try it with mine as soon as I can get to the store to pick some up. I hope the health food store still carries it cheap cuz I only want a small like 1 pound bag at a time.

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I gave all of mine banana when I noticed my Sr buck wasn't eating much or drinking. He now eats and drinks the most of all of them. :)

I would stick with the banana because the canned all has so much added junk in it.

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#23  Unread postby ZRabbits » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:40 am


Banana sounds interesting, but since I don't give fruit to my rabbits until they are 7 months old, the timothy hay has worked very well for me. I do give dried papaya at 7 months.

Have you ever thought of buying your timothy hay on line? Being from the suburbs it is tough trying to find the right supplies for your livestock. And at a reasonable price. I've been doing some research on how I can cut down my hay costs. Buying bags at the pet store is starting to creep up. Need to learn to buy in bulk.

Found a few sites but this one looked interesting

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area ... &topic=hay

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#24  Unread postby -HRanchito » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:40 am


ZRabbits wrote: I've been doing some research on how I can cut down my hay costs. Buying bags at the pet store is starting to creep up. Need to learn to buy in bulk.


craigslist always has hay ads in the farm and garden section. (I should use my own CL more often...I pay like twice as much at the feed store b/c it's so convenient.

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#25  Unread postby tm_bunnyloft » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:09 am


I am going to start buying my timothy hay in the compact 50 pound bales from tractor supply. I don't want any alfalfa in it and the farmers here all plant a mix that is good for dairy cattle. I sold off all of my hay because I wanted pure timothy for my rabbits.

I am feeling pretty lucky that there is a Rural King and a Tractor Supply Company both in Terra Haute. So I will be able to get the manna SHO easily there.

The fruit is only given if your rabbit is showing signs of wool block. Not as a maintenance thing. I don't normally give any of my rabbits fruit or Veggies but if it is needed to keep them alive at times, then I'm all for it. I have one now that I have noticed isn't eating as well as the other three JW so he will get banana tonight.

I am also picking up flaxseed today and starting my Woolies on a maintenance dose of that daily. !/4 teaspoon should do it. :)

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#26  Unread postby MaggieJ » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:33 am


TM, Mary Ann suggested starting with just a pinch of flax seed and working up to 1/4 teaspoon. I'd hate to see your rabbits have an adverse reaction to the sudden addition of flax.

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#27  Unread postby skysthelimit » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:34 am


ZRabbits wrote:Banana sounds interesting, but since I don't give fruit to my rabbits until they are 7 months old, the timothy hay has worked very well for me. I do give dried papaya at 7 months.

Have you ever thought of buying your timothy hay on line? Being from the suburbs it is tough trying to find the right supplies for your livestock. And at a reasonable price. I've been doing some research on how I can cut down my hay costs. Buying bags at the pet store is starting to creep up. Need to learn to buy in bulk.

Found a few sites but this one looked interesting

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area ... &topic=hay

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Buying on line is way too expensive for the amount of rabbits I have. I don't usually wait that long to feed fresh greens or fruit, they nibble on whatever the doe has, and even though I am feeding mainly pellets, every one gets something green every once and awhile, especially those with kits, so in the few instances that I had to feed greens while waiting to get pellets, they would have the right amount of gut flora.

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I checked the site. Looks interesting, but there are no current ads in Ohio.
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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#28  Unread postby tm_bunnyloft » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:28 pm


I mean to work them up to 1/4 teaspoon. :oops: I have been researching the benefits of flax seed elsewhere as well. But I should have specified that I will be working them up to a maintenance dose in which I figure 1/4 teaspoon of Flax seed should do the trick. I am looking to use flax seed to help with wool block, not so much for reproduction. If my bunz have wool block I want the slippery effect. :) That and the reason I am switching to Manna Pro Sho is because of the added papaya to help prevent wool block. :)

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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#29  Unread postby skysthelimit » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:50 pm


Craigslist ads for hay still result in a drive that is 50 miles away. I'm stuck with the Timothy/alfalfa mix for now from TSC. I am assuming that my local health store will have the whole Flax seeds. I got a $2 coupon for MannaPro, I'm thinking instead of buying BOSS I would use the extra money for the price difference between Pro and Show/Grow formulas.
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Re: FLAX SEED (THE RESULTS)

Post Number:#30  Unread postby tm_bunnyloft » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:02 pm


There is a graph on the bottom of this page to compare the three Manna Pro Select feeds:

http://www.mannapro.com/products/rabbit ... ries-feed/

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Select Series SHO Formula Rabbit Food is a complete feed for show rabbits. A well-known and trusted brand among rabbit breeders. Contains Yucca Extract for improved palatability and odor control. Made with Manna E, our exclusive blend of probiotic bacteria, enzymes and yeast for improved digestion. Contains 16% protein.

Taken from the tractor supply product page:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/select-ser ... b--2520014

I read somewhere that it aids in reproduction too.

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