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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#16  Unread postby Schipperkesue » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:58 am


I deal with this in a different way. My rabbits are in raised wire cages, covered, and surrounded with chain link. Every year I move the rabbits to a new location, and till the waste under, thus creating a new garden space for myself. Instead of moving the waste, I move the rabbits!

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#17  Unread postby MamaSheepdog » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:00 am


WhWRabbitry wrote:For those of us who do have trays/pans underneath cages what do you all suggest using in them?

I've been using layers of newspaper, with a little wood shavings & wood pellets put in the areas they potty most in the trays.


I can imagine the newspaper would be a nightmare to deal with. I assume you were using it in an attempt to protect the trays, but I think it is counterproductive since it would hold the moisture and cause more damage than urine that is allowed to evaporate or be absorbed by the pellets.

My "rabbit partner" uses trays, and she uses pine pellets.

You will need to adjust the amount of pellets used (and their distribution) according to if there is a single rabbit or a doe with a litter. The kits don't have the sense to use a designated potty corner, so the pellets need to be scattered all over the tray as opposed to in only one corner.

WhWRabbitry wrote:Keeping odor down is huge to us.


You can buy large bags of baking soda at warehouse stores like Costco and liberally sprinkle that in the trays. Food grade diatomaceous earth is also said to cut down on odor.
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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#18  Unread postby WhWRabbitry » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:53 am


MamaSheepdog wrote:I can imagine the newspaper would be a nightmare to deal with. I assume you were using it in an attempt to protect the trays, but I think it is counterproductive since it would hold the moisture and cause more damage than urine that is allowed to evaporate or be absorbed by the pellets.

My "rabbit partner" uses trays, and she uses pine pellets.

You will need to adjust the amount of pellets used (and their distribution) according to if there is a single rabbit or a doe with a litter. The kits don't have the sense to use a designated potty corner, so the pellets need to be scattered all over the tray as opposed to in only one corner.

You can buy large bags of baking soda at warehouse stores like Costco and liberally sprinkle that in the trays. Food grade diatomaceous earth is also said to cut down on odor.



Thank you so much!!! I didn't really think about the newspaper being counterproductive but I see what you are saying! I will try what you have suggested.
I guess I wasn't sure how to get the waste out of such large trays and into something in a productive way. So, I thought being able to roll it up and then drop into a trash bag was the method. But then as I said that's not working well and I have more trash.

So I assume I would then just scoop out the used pellets to remove from the tray?

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#19  Unread postby Schipperkesue » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:30 pm


I also find the best solution for dropping trays is a nice layer of peat. Peat is acidic and will neutralize the ammonia in the urine. It is light weight and a welcome addition to your garden.

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#20  Unread postby MamaSheepdog » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:37 pm


WhWRabbitry wrote:So I assume I would then just scoop out the used pellets to remove from the tray?


We dump it into the garden (or a waste can) and then rinse the trays.

Schipperkesue wrote:I also find the best solution for dropping trays is a nice layer of peat. Peat is acidic and will neutralize the ammonia in the urine. It is light weight and a welcome addition to your garden.


Yes, peat moss is also a great option, especially if you are using the waste for your garden.

However, peat moss usage is getting a rather bad rap these days as it is considered a non-renewable resource- or at least one where demand outstrips the new formation of it.
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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#21  Unread postby Silver Cloud » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:29 pm


If doing stackables and have the right size cage these should work very well for you. http://www.bassequipment.com/Kennels/Pl ... fault.aspx Just a thought, then to bucket with holes drilled set inside another bucket for urine to collect in, or just to drain out on ground depending inside or out.

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#22  Unread postby wamplercathy » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:16 pm


Marinea wrote:We use slant boards and a gutter system to collect waste.

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We collect and compost all the waste (poop and hay). I find them easy to clean, less smelly, fewer flies, less mess for the dogs to run through. It works for us.


This is what we are planing on doing. Thinking about either wire mesh or just a few small holes in the gutter so the urine and bunny berries don't sit and stew together. I would think that the smell would be less if the 2 are kept separate. Also would keep me from bending over. Better for my back :D

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#23  Unread postby michaels4gardens » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:21 am


Marinea wrote:We use slant boards and a gutter system to collect waste.

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We collect and compost all the waste (poop and hay). I find them easy to clean, less smelly, fewer flies, less mess for the dogs to run through. It works for us.


That looks like a very nice clean system, good for you

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#24  Unread postby Dood » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:19 am


I've used clay kitty litter, baking soda, agricultural lime, caustic lime and horse stall de-odorizer in the bottom of trays with wood chips, pellets, and peat moss over top :) all have worked rather well for odour control

To clean out the trays I use a small metal dust pan to scoop it out and dump into bins and then out to the gardens or pastures.

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#25  Unread postby Marinea » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:59 am


wamplercathy wrote:This is what we are planing on doing. Thinking about either wire mesh or just a few small holes in the gutter so the urine and bunny berries don't sit and stew together. I would think that the smell would be less if the 2 are kept separate. Also would keep me from bending over. Better for my back :D


Honestly, with the bits of hay that fall through as well, smell isn't really an issue. I do have to admit, though, that even with the expansion of our rabbitry to 10 holes, I still clean the slant boards and gutters daily. Well, until the last few days and our below zero temps. It takes maybe 10-15 minutes total, and the buckets go directly to either the compost bin or a garden bed.
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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#26  Unread postby WhWRabbitry » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:23 pm


WhWRabbitry wrote:
MamaSheepdog wrote:I can imagine the newspaper would be a nightmare to deal with. I assume you were using it in an attempt to protect the trays, but I think it is counterproductive since it would hold the moisture and cause more damage than urine that is allowed to evaporate or be absorbed by the pellets.

My "rabbit partner" uses trays, and she uses pine pellets.

You will need to adjust the amount of pellets used (and their distribution) according to if there is a single rabbit or a doe with a litter. The kits don't have the sense to use a designated potty corner, so the pellets need to be scattered all over the tray as opposed to in only one corner.

You can buy large bags of baking soda at warehouse stores like Costco and liberally sprinkle that in the trays. Food grade diatomaceous earth is also said to cut down on odor.



Thank you so much!!! I didn't really think about the newspaper being counterproductive but I see what you are saying! I will try what you have suggested.
I guess I wasn't sure how to get the waste out of such large trays and into something in a productive way. So, I thought being able to roll it up and then drop into a trash bag was the method. But then as I said that's not working well and I have more trash.

So I assume I would then just scoop out the used pellets to remove from the tray?


Just wanted to say thank you again. I've left out the newspaper the last week and just used pine wood shavings & some wood pellets and scooped & added new as needed. Definitely a quicker process and not so much trash!

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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#27  Unread postby MatSuAK » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:26 pm


The best setup with pans that I have experienced used doggy potty pads. Like what you would do in a show carrier. Taped the edges of the potty pad to the pan with masking or painters tape. I purchased 4 rabbits and cages off of CL that used this setup indoors. I moved the rabbits to our mud room as I was conditioning them to move outside. I was amazed at the complete odor control. I didn't even clean the pens for 3 weeks!!! When I did clean them out I just pulled off the tape, folded the ends of the pad in to create a "bag" carried it outside and dumped the poo in my flower beds. Threw the urine soaked pad away. The trays stayed dry, and were in brand new condition. The pad soaks up liquid just like a diaper.
I really was amazed and if I ever have a house rabbit this is the way I would do it :P Don't think it would be practical with a large setup, unless of course your an odor control and neat freak lol.
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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#28  Unread postby Susie570 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:06 pm


The potty pads sounds like a really good idea... not sure how you would keep them from chewing the pads though and still have the potty box. Maybe put a piece of wire grating over the pad? I'm not sure the buns would like that though. I've noticed that our 4wk old babies are already pooping in the litter box where mom likes to go.
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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#29  Unread postby Easy Ears » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:00 am


I realize this is an old thread but I couldn't help noticing the last few posts on potty pads for puppies. I am trying to find something to cut down on urine odor with my indoor bunny who is currently in my room. I don't know much about puppy potty pads but do they trap the urine smell well? Would it be a feasible idea to put the pads at the bottom of the litter box and put hay on top of it? Absorbent pine pellets would probably do just about the same and maybe cheaper though....am I wrong?
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Re: Effective Waste Management?

Post Number:#30  Unread postby ozemba » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:30 am


Hey, Easy Ears, in my opinion, and I had two indoor, unaltered male rabbits... The only time I would notice a smell, other than hay and just the smell the rabbits have themselves (which isn't much) , was if I didn't clean out their wood pellet filled litter boxes on time.

Each had two, one in their crate and one in their "run". Percy had my whole bedroom and Tristan had a good chunk of the living room permanently his.

I think having two litter boxes each also helped cut down on the concentrated smell.

Feel free to try puppy pads but you'll find they are pretty expensive. It's honestly whatever you want to try.

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