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Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#1  Unread postby TeaTimeBunnies » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:19 pm


So not long after I posted about correcting someone's answer on social media I took a closer look at one of my does. I thought she was just a broken black, but noticed slight stripe patters really noticable when looking at her back. Anyway she looked potentially like a broken magpie. I decided to test the theory and I bred her to my Japanese harlequin buck. Well 2 days ago 5 kits were born. Now that their fur is coming in I can see there are 4 japanese harlequins and one Tri-color. Based off the other post I made, that Tri-colored kit means she IS in fact a broken magpie right? I could NOT get a Tri-color from a broken black, correct? Picture of my doe
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Re: Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#2  Unread postby shazza » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:33 pm


not sure on the genetics really, but she looks just like a broken magpie i bred this year (out of a broken harlequined chinchilla and a japanese harlequin.)

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i'd never really seen a broken magpie before but i think i might be a fan of them!
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Re: Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#3  Unread postby SableSteel » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:31 pm


She does look broken magpie to me but you could easily get a tricolor from a broken black, especially if the other parent was a harlequin, as long as the broken black carried non extension or harlequin.
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Re: Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#4  Unread postby jamaldanny rabbitry » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:21 am


u still can get tri colors IF your broken black carry nonextension.

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Re: Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#5  Unread postby Dood » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:43 pm


If the broken black carriers harli or non-extension then statically you'd expect 50% full extention (black, blue, sable, self chin etc..) and 50% Harli/magpie/tri based

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Re: Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#6  Unread postby ladysown » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:57 pm


never knew there was such a thing as a broken magpie. My assumption has always been "poorly marked harlequin". How does one differentiate between the two?
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Re: Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#7  Unread postby alforddm » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:00 pm


ladysown wrote:never knew there was such a thing as a broken magpie. My assumption has always been "poorly marked harlequin". How does one differentiate between the two?


A magpie has no yellow red pigment. Think harlequin in black and white. A broken magpie will look like a tri but all black an white.

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Re: Does this mean broken magpie?

Post Number:#8  Unread postby ladysown » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:54 am


that still makes no sense to me.

black and white, chocolate and white, lilac and white, blue and white.. these are all magpie colours.

Magpie is magpie whether poorly marked or not. The idea of differentiating a broken magpie from a non-broken magpie. Seriously HOW do you do it? would you just say all poorly marked magpies are broken????

A magpie is not a tricolour, a tricolour could be called broken harlequin. I just don't see the broken magpie bit.
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