Pedigreed rabbits can be any rabbit with ANY amount of the ancestory listed, typically it is the weight/breed/color/ear number/breeder prefix and given name. You could have a pedigreed rabbit that you knew 6 generations of history on but they were all different breeds or mixes of breeds. The American Rabbit Breeder Association considers a rabbit a purebred pedigreed rabbit IF the rabbit has the weight, color, ear number,breeder prefix and name of the rabbit and of the same breed for at least 3 generations. They can have unaccepted colors (or be an unaccepted color) in that 3 generations (as well as farther back) but must be ONE breed through the 3 generations. They can also have relatives that don't conform to the breed standard in their pedigree or they could not conform to the breed's standard and be perfect. There are many variations of pedigreed purebreds, some being better examples of the ideal and others not so much. To be able to be register'd they must have the complete 3 generation pedigree AND conform to the ARBA's current standard of perfection for the breed and for rabbits in general not to be disqualified from show. They have to meet all requirements for the breed including but not limited to weight, color, and type. They must be at least 6 months old and meet senior requirements for the breed. They must be inspected by a licensed register, pass the inspection, and proper paper work submitted to become registered.

I don't think I've left any thing out, if I did, please some one remind me...it can be a good bit to remember at times.

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I emailed her about getting started and purchasing rabbits to see what the deal was. She told me she didn't have any thing but would be glad to set me up when she had babies. They were 30.00 each for her 'purebred registered rabbits' and she couldn't give me any kind of guarantee or tell me what the backgrounds on the kids where. She told me she'd never had any issues and didn't see why I needed any more then that and would be happy to help me get started. I also asked her about having the rabbits that litter box trained, and was told that it wasn't possible.....

With all the AR issues and it being hard enough any way for the average joe trying to do good and honest with their rabbits, would the ARBA be able to do some thing since she's advertising her rabbits as registered and they're the ones that deal with registry? I know in all likelihood there's another one out there scamming, but shesh I'm rather upset about it when I know people are going to get taken for a ride, breeders in general look bad, and when it is going to make people trying to be honest look like scammers when honest mistakes are made. No ones perfect, and I get that...but yesh to do it on purpose is another story.

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One more note on registration...any one can get the standard (purchased from the ARBA site store or some where else for 20.00 or so) and their rabbit can match it...but even if they have the pedigree and it matches every thing else they still have to be an ARBA member in order to even get their rabbit registered. Its usually the first thing a register will ask for besides the pedigree.

Thank you for stating all of that so much better than I was.

I added your explanation to my website's blog SMR I felt it was well written out

Thanks, you might want to tweek and reword some of it so that it looks better lol. Spell check would probably be a good idea as well, I have issues with spelling even though I do try lol. I tend to jump some times and I may be a bit hard to read for some....it can be confusing to remember every thing, like I said and I'm pretty sure I forgot some thing but can't remember what...I've got that nagging feeling and I don't know what it is lol.

I've been working and hoping to help get more interest in newer breeds (Lionhead and Velveteens specifically) and to eventually get blue eyed white English Lops a recognized color, so I need to know what is and isn't considered purebred and what not for showing/registration purposes. Plus dreaming of being a register some day never hurts lol. Its many years of work for getting for getting the color for the EL though...but worth it

Should note for those that don't know too much about ARBA shows since it plays into the pedigrees. There is a difference between the pedigrees, getting registered and just showing. A rabbit does not have to have a pedigreed purebred to be shown, it just needs to match the breed standard for which it is being shown as. So the show rabbit must be an accepted color along with the other qualifications for the breed. So techincally if you had a cross that looked like a certain breed enough, it conformed to standard, you could show it. Course considering some breeds have very stiff competition and the various looks that can be found with in one breed, the rabbit in question may not and probably wouldn't be a first place. That purebred looking cross could be the start to purebreds though just like if you'd have a purebred that didn't have a pedigree (four breedings and you'd have a complete pedigree if the correct information and breeding was done so that no other breeds or was other wise incomplete). You don't have to be an ARBA member to show at the shows I've been to and I don't know of any that require membership to show. And any one can start a pedigree from one rabbit and work it out to 3 generations as well so that they end up with a pedigreed purebred.

Apparently loop was a breed for a short time. I was talking with someone who said a group of people crossed checkered giants with lops to create what they called loops and sold them through this pet store in the midwest. No idea why anyone would try such a thing and it does still make your standard lop eared breeds not loops but the word did come from somewhere.

Well, her website is actually really nice. Too bad she doesn't have a clue..

I always thought that a lopped running breed would be hilarious (could you imagine the ears as the rabbit is running the table?). Why on earth they would call them Loops of all things, though...that's just silly.