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Post Number:#1  Unread postby OneAcreFarm » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:56 am


Ok, now I am terrified that my impulsive purchase of Cupcake has put my other buns and babies at risk! :oops: I should know better than to do things on a whim, but that is part and parcel who I am sometimes.....I have ordered some Vanocide to clean with and will be watching very closely. The interesting thing is that it is only one nostril....The other one is completely clear and she is not sneezing at all.
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Post Number:#2  Unread postby Cattle Cait » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:03 pm


I'd put some apple cider vinegar in all their water, just to be safe. Maybe a couple of tablespoons per gallon? I put it in until it turns an off-red color but still translucent.
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Post Number:#3  Unread postby cedarrun » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:35 pm


Where are you getting the Vanodine? I finally decided to start using it last week but I keep seeing that the company that imports it decided not to renew some EPA license. I really want it.

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Post Number:#4  Unread postby OneAcreFarm » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:40 pm


cedarrun wrote:Where are you getting the Vanodine? I finally decided to start using it last week but I keep seeing that the company that imports it decided not to renew some EPA license. I really want it.

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Post Number:#5  Unread postby ladysown » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:40 pm


did she ever have coloured snot or has it all been clear?

I suspect if it's clear snot she might just be fine and is reacting to something in her environment.

so don't freak out yet until you have a better handle on what is going on. Freak out enough to exercise good isolation tactics...but not so much that you are running afeared. :)
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Post Number:#6  Unread postby OneAcreFarm » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:43 pm


ok, ok, I will remain calm...or at least try to. She has been removed from the shed, what should I be looking for in terms of it progressing badly? As I said, no sneezing other than when she got a snoot full of water....
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Post Number:#7  Unread postby MaggieJ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:33 pm


Sticky, matted fur on the front paws, coloured snot, increased sneezing with discharge, runny eyes... In general, a worsening of the symptoms.

It may well be something in the environment. KatzND has already seen an improvement in her rabbits since cutting out certain things in the rabbits' vicinity.
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Post Number:#8  Unread postby OneAcreFarm » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:39 pm


MaggieJ wrote:Sticky, matted fur on the front paws, coloured snot, increased sneezing with discharge, runny eyes... In general, a worsening of the symptoms.

It may well be something in the environment. KatzND has already seen an improvement in her rabbits since cutting out certain things in the rabbits' vicinity.


I will get a pic when I get home tonight, but as far as I can tell her eyes are clear and no matting or sneezing. Could be the hay, or maybe fines/dust from the feed. I was using up the last of a bag and it had alot of pellet dust at the bottom.
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Post Number:#9  Unread postby Frosted Rabbits » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:00 pm


Fines will certainly cause sneezing!
I also am still amazed at the fact that so many people panic at a sneeze-- but then, I am being anxious about Marsha---and i do know, from experience, how fast something can run through a herd---, and how quickly a herd can be wiped out. Gonna cross fingers for Cupcake
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Post Number:#10  Unread postby OneAcreFarm » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:06 pm


So now cupcake is sneezing, has a snotty nose... :(

Worse, Amy and Padme have started sneezing and Amy has some whitish snot in one of her nostrils... :cry:

I feel like such an idiot...I did this...What do I do?

Can the babies be saved? Can I treat the moms till weaning?
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Post Number:#11  Unread postby ottersatin » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:02 pm


You want to retain the kits that show no symptoms,
but keep a close eye on them as they mature.
Should any signs of illness appear I would CULL.
If they remain symptom free, they are the ones
with the resistance and you should restart your breeding program with them.
Continue to cull toward rabbit herd health.
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Post Number:#12  Unread postby Pickles » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:13 pm


Oh no! Sorry to hear that your herd is having difficulties. Dont have any advice to offer, but I will send positive thoughts your way that all will be well and your buns will be on the mend soon!

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Post Number:#13  Unread postby arachyd » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:43 pm


I wouldn't panic yet. You did say the feed was dusty. Perhaps Cupcake is just more sensitive to it so she reacted first.

I had a bit of concern this morning when one of my does started sneezing while I was doing the morning feeding. It quickly got much worse over about 20 minutes and she had snot running from both nostrils and looked like a human with the flu. Suddenly she sneezed so hard I thought a lung was going to come out her nose but instead a sunflower seed came out. She was fine after that.

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Post Number:#14  Unread postby MaggieJ » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:57 pm


Shannon, stay calm. If it is something in their environment (like the fines, or pollen or a different cleaning agent or whatever) it is not so surprising that the others are showing symptoms as well.

If it turns out to be snuffles, then you will handle it. What you need to do for the moment is treat the rabbits as best you can so you can raise out the litters and then make your longer term decisions based on how things play out. But do make every effort not to carry on clothing, hands, shoes etc. any germs from your rabbits to anyone else's. If you have rabbit friends, stay away from their rabbitries for the time being.
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Post Number:#15  Unread postby ladysown » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:59 pm


research that I've done suggests that early weaning is VITAL in protecting the kits. Remove them at 3.5 weeks and completely get them away from mom and any sneezing rabbits. Apparently momma's milk is an important factor.

after you have removed environmental factors you'll be faced with this ....

But honestly the best solution... Remove from herd anything that is sneezing coloured snot. The long term health of your herd is of strong importance. THIS is where you teach your daughter hard lessons in animal husbandry. Teach her how snuffles is more than sneezing...long term snuffles affect their bones...and they will deteriorate...and for an animal born to hop and run wild...does she want that for her bunny?
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